Originally Posted by Bill8

So, because a canadian mining engineer says that the government SHOULD have investigated and declared the "science" true or false, something that has terrifying orwellian implications about the desire to have politics define what is scientifically true and what isn't, you want to say all the rest of teh investigation is biased?

You WANT politicians to tell us what is allowed scientificially?

Dide, that is fucking crazy.

man, HUNDREDS of people have said to Steve McIntyre, "become a climate scientist, get yourself published in the peer review journals, and we will be happy to take your critiques into consideration.".

But what McIntyre does is conduct a kind of scientific Denial of Services attack, asking peopel from around the world to file FOI requests on the CRU. That's not science, thats politics - hell, thats not politics, thats just a nuisance crime.

And you know, all the data that they wanted was just published recently - it's on the net now, where anyone can download it and run it thru filters.

Because that's how science works - it's slower than politics, it's slower than the media, because it has a method, and that method asn't about popular opinion or fads or political firestorms, it's about sharing the measurements in a way that allows peer review by qualified peers.