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Old 07-29-2011, 12:33 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
did you even read your own statement
he agreed with you when you put the condition of an actual sale happening

your interpretation of what he was saying contridicts your conversation with him

he is objecting to free alternatives being taken down, from having the choice to try before he buys taken away from him

btw his arguement is even more anti copyright than mine
i believe i should have a right to use the torrents as a radio station BECAUSE canada has a piracy tax which provides greater compensation then the liciencing fees paid for radio broadcast.(on a per person basis)







this is where you cross the line he is complaining about

your arguing that they have a right to sell it forever, fine you can do that cc-sa

but then you demand that they can only do it if they GET PERMISSION

like i said your arguement justifies selling your shit over and over again

your trying to use it to justify taking that right away from other people.

if i bought a car i could sell to someone else, i could rent it out, i could even provide a service for a fee (taxi cab/limo service) all without every getting PERMISSION from the car manufacturer.




but as i pointed out your trying to make too points

1. that they should have a right to keep selling their stuff
2. the right to prevent people who don't have PERMISSION from doing what they want with it

I have no problem with the first

if every artist was forced to release their stuff under CC-SA you would still have that right.

however nothing you said justifies the second arguement.
I'm not going to argue with you over this. I made an agreement with myself to not get swept into your ring of bullshit and I only made a few responses here because I didn't want to be completely rude and ignore you.

1. You are reading a lot into what he wrote and assuming a lot. I want to hear what he means from him - not you.

2. If a band records a record and people are willing to buy it they should be paid for that. It doesn't matter if the album was originally recorded a week, a month, a year or a decade ago.

3. If you want to use a band's music in a TV show or movie or some kind of commercial endeavor that you are going to make money on then you either need to pay them for it OR get their permission to use it for free.

That is it. That is all I have been trying to say. That is what I believe and I don't really care if you agree with it or not.
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