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Originally Posted by dyna mo
you shotgunners better start thinking longer range firepower because by the time the massive hoard gets into shotgunnin distance, we are going to roll right over you and on to your precious stockpile of shit.

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QFT. You don't get firearms that have short range. Pipe Crew knows what's up, get something that will reach out and touch someone before they can touch you. 100 Yards min. Which is no problem for any AR 15.
Shot guns and handguns are secondary, for close quarter fighting. If they get that close, you've fucked up.
And for the guy who had to put his 2 cents in about the heart being in the middle, the point of shooting in a group is to show skill. Which that close ass group showed well. .223 bounces like a motherfucker, and the hydrostatic shock alone would fuck your world up if not outright killing you. But these are all things people who shoot and train for SHTF scenarios know.