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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
No I'm not. I was a member of APIC and we knew all about piracy in the mid 90s. Yes you could download a whole website on dial up.
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Five minutes ago you claimed that wasn't possible. Now, after I explained it wasn't just possible but it happened, you "knew" it was possible all along. Okay.
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And do what with it? Rent a server, load it to the website ad sell it?
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Who are you talking about here? People trying to make money from piracy or piracy in general? People who tried to make money on it sold it on the web. People who were interested in getting sites for free just traded it. You don't need a website to do the latter.
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Stop talking you're looking foolish. Suze Randall was also a member of APIC. Not even sure MacAndBumble existed then. Members of APIC included many of the top shooters and mags in the business.
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Come back when you have actually Googled what Usenet is, because it's apparent you have no idea. And I don't know what you mean by "then" but I'm talking late 90s/early 2000s. Suze was so popular her fans created a newsgroup just for her pics, created on Sat, 06 Jun 1998 01:53:33 GMT.
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Yes the economy has caused a slowdown. Companies who were not doing so well are now suffering. The downturn in the economy is nothing compared to the downturn in porn.
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Thousands of people have lost their jobs, long established companies have gone to the wall, banks have folded and entire countries have virtually collapsed. Yes, that's nothing compared to dropped porn ratios.
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You're praying that all the people who turned off paying for porn will be around and will to pay for porn when it gets better. You're dreaming. They will stay where they are. There's not enough reasons to come back to paying.
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Whose fault is that? Who are you blaming for the fact that people can't make a product that 'nobody' wants? People complain as if they have a divine right to permanently and for ever make the same money year in, year out. Sure, that's how it works everywhere else, right?
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Look at ratios from 2000 to 2008. They got worse and worse, the only thing that kept online porn going was the extra surfers in countries we can bill. That's over.
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Well then it's over. How's the porn magazine industry these days? I doubt many of the pioneers of web porn really care about the demise of that.
Everyone seems to be able to see that people prefer 'interactive' adult sites, and even talk about how successful those kind of sites are, but some people seem intent on just complaining about it, rather than changing to accommodate it.