helterskelter808

Haven't got a problem with him, or anyone else. However it's rather tiresome and unproductive constantly responding to any argument along the lines of "I'm better than you", rather than just addressing or challenging points that are being made.

As we've already discussed, the WWW and the number of people online was a gnat's sting in the 90s. There were about 20,000 sites in mid 1995. I doubt many of them were porn sites, but I'm willing to bet, of the ones that did contain porn, free or pay, most contained 'stolen' (unlicensed) porn.

Meanwhile, while the WWW was still relatively nothing, Usenet had tens of thousands of newsgroups. Most of those did not contain porn, but I can guarantee there was more porn on Usenet than the web at the time. Anyone who thinks otherwise simply has no idea how small the web was and/or how popular Usenet was.

The Usenet newsgroup for porn videos, that people would capture from tapes themselves and upload, was created in 1994. How may porn sites had video in 1994? Given that there were less than 1,000 websites in total at the beginning of 1994 and less than 5% of those were .coms, how may porn sites even existed then?

The WWW wasn't just a gnat's sting back then compared to today (where now it effectively is 'the internet') it was a gnat's sting compared to the rest of the internet at that time. 'Piracy' though was alive and kicking and accounted for almost all online porn at the time.

Are you talking about websites? Because I'm talking about Usenet. Not only did the people posting create their own software to file, organize and authenticate the images from her site, they had CSV files based on full CD-sized collections of images. There were many CDs of Suze Randall content, all neatly sorted into folders; likewise other sites. And the people doing it were on those sites the day they opened for business. There were sites I hadn't even heard of with their content on Usenet, and I used to wonder sometimes if uploaders were also affiliates of the sites.

Suze did, I believe with the aid of BayTSP, effectively stop the newsgroup dedicated to her content from functioning in the early/mid 2000s by targeting the posters of her material. For their part, they probably just moved elsewhere to trade her stuff.

I can't remember a time when there wasn't free porn on the internet. It was there long before you or anyone else ever dreamed of making your first porn website, because it was there before Tim Berners-Lee had even announced the WWW, which, BTW, he did on the very same Usenet that already carried free porn. You see, it's not free porn that's the cuckoo in the internet's nest, it's paid for porn.

Even before the internet people could get free porn. Everyone had at least a friend of a friend who had porn, which was actually often the only way to get it. Even in countries where porn is legal there aren't porn shops on every corner of every highstreet.

What you actually have now is porn on an equal footing with any other business. No need to go to a bad part of town in a dirty raincoat; it's just as easy to get Hustler as it is to get the NY Times, and it's completely legal in every country where people have credit cards.

And yet some people in porn stick with the mentality that it's seedy, shady or otherwise not legit, treat people as marks rather than (valued) customers and use black hat tactics (that just fuck off potential or current customers) that should have been marginalized years ago but are still tolerated and even encouraged.

Meanwhile, you go to a Tube site and get exactly what you're looking for with no bullshit.

I asked you how magazines are faring, not how much hay the owners made while the sun was shining.

Instead of posting this you could have simply posted the sums you have done. Or is that what you just did?

Are you seriously asking, or just trolling? Do you have a good reason, preferably backed with evidence, why porn is immune from the recession?