Fornicating

This demonstrates that there was damage to the building.
Banaciski. Fireman Ladder 22

?They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it,coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up.
Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on.?

Demonstrates that it had been damaged and there were heavy fires
Nigro. Chief of Department

The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldn?t lose any more People


Demonstrates large amount of damage is noted on the South side
Boyle. Captain

We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what`s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn`t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn`t look good.

But they had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too. Then we received an order from Fellini, we`re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn`t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn�t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I`m standing next to said, that building doesn`t look straight. So I`m standing there. I`m looking at the building. It didn`t look right, but, well, we`ll go in, we`ll see.

So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody`s going into 7, there`s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.

Q Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

A Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Q Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

A Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we`ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.


Demonstrates that there was a discernible bulge
Hayden. Firefighter

Hayden: Yeah. There was enough there and we were marking off. There were a lot of damaged apparatus there that were covered. We tried to get searches in those areas. By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o?clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o?clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.



These are just a couple of on the spot visual records recorded by Firefighters, many more are available if one cares to look, unless of course all of these guys are in on the explosives conspiracy as well.
Iit demonstrates that there was substantial damage to the building, it demonstrates that by visual examination alone, bulges could be seen.

Now if you were actually interested, you would find out how it was constructed, what was unusual about the design and how it had been modified. (quite considerable in order to accommodate the electrical sub station if I remember correctly) You would also find out how long it actually took to fall, and you would also have a look at the debris field to discover that it did not fall within its own footprint.

All the information and actual facts are there, all you have to do is actually have a look, rather than just accept a video that has been put together by people interested in their own particular agenda.
As to the comments that prior to 9/11 nor post 9/11, no steel re-enforced building has ever collapsed, then again, prior to and post, there was never a situation where dirty great jet aircraft had been piled into one.

In order for controlled demolitions to be used, it would require a substantial number of explosives to be attached, and those are drilled into load bearing pillars, it would then require thousands of feet of detonating cable (and no they would not use wireless because they could have been set off at any time by random radio transmissions) and many hundreds of detonating caps, and not one cable found? Not one person noticed hundreds of charges being drilled into pillars, not one person saw one cable sprawled across a walkway?

Seriously!