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Old 09-05-2011, 11:24 AM  
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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ View Post
Technology alone has killed millions of jobs. IMO the main reason manufacturing jobs move overseas is because it's not skilled labor. If you're working a factory line doing the same thing thousands a times a day, wanting yearly pay increases and benefits, can you really blame companies for moving?

Or the people who complain about illegals taking jobs. People need a reality check, if an illegal can come to this country, not speak the language, with ZERO US education, work harder, and take your job, who's fault is it really?

Americans haven't a clue on how good we truly have it. It's simple for Americans to come up with an idea, pay a small fee for a business license and open shop. Try this in Russia or China, they'll let you setup/build, but the second you turn a profit they'll clamp down in a heartbeat because your competition paid off or knows the right person.

WTS, you also get what you pay for because China and India are having huge labor problems because they work like drones. Meaning, the American labor markets naturally think how to innovate things or take pride in explaining a faster or more productive way to improve products or service. Even when employed by another.

Not there, because they'll never speak out, benefit, or climb the company latter because of their heavy cast system. You can have the best education in the world, but it means fuck all until you get your hands dirty causing thought for innovation.

The best thing for unemployment right now is for the Government to inject small capital loans for small business or at least wave all company taxes for 3 years. If they did this there will be a wave of new innovation creating new markets and employment. What most people don't know is 50% of all the successful companies on the stock market were started by people with a year of college or less with an average IQ of 100.

Anyway, this will never happen because getting money from the Government is a bureaucratic red tape nightmare, the gov clowns monitoring the loans are unqualified or they wouldn't be working for the government, and followed by rampant corruption.

In short, there is no solution and my honest opinion is let it all crash and burn as we Americans will learn to stop voting for posers and be grateful for the things we have rather then the things we don't or others have. Meaning, we are well past needed tough love.
Technology is one of the big reasons for these job loses as you state. Also, as you state, these were/are unskilled jobs so it is no surprise that they eventually moved off-seas. Some of it can be blamed on greed. For example I read the other day that if Apple manufactured all of it's products here in the US and paid a livable wage to those who were making them they would still make 100% profit or more. They want more profit so they have them built elsewhere and that is there prerogative. Clearly the people of this country don't care where they are built or they would not buy them.

Where we have a big problem now that won't be quick or easy to solve is that we now have potentially millions of workers with no job and no skills beyond those for a job that no longer exists. Those people will need to get some kind of education or training if they are going to eventually get jobs that pay a good wage. If the government is going to be handing out stimulus money I wouldn't mind seeing some of it go to people like that who are going to go back to school and learn a new trade.
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