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Old 09-16-2011, 11:10 AM  
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Good answer.

And there's more. The Israelis will have to get out of the land they occupied by putting towns and farms on stolen land, which makes the "defense" excuse void. No one puts houses and farms on land that's a buffer between you and your enemies unless you're pretty sure they can't or won't do squat.

The problem goes far deeper and based on the Old Testament.

Abraham, I told you it goes way back, was the head of a nomadic tribe of herdsman. Him and his cousin Lott fell out and Lott left the tribe and took his family to Sodom. We know that part. Well Lott and his two surviving daughters were alone in a cave and had sex. The girls got pregnant and the 2 sons were the fathers of the Canaanites.

So fast forward a few centuries.

Moses took the Children of Israel from Egypt, you know that one as well. Then God told them the land of the Canaanites was theres and they were to kill all the Canaanites who opposed them. Even gave them the plans to The Ark which was a Weapon of Mass Destruction and made walls fall down so they could kill the Canaanites and all their goats, beasts and dogs also. On Gods orders to take the land he had given them.

Also empowered people like Joshua, David and Solomon and all the rest to make sure they kept the land they were given by God.

Which didn't count for squat when the Babylonians invaded Israel and again enslaved the in Babylon and they decided to write the Talmud while there. And tell it the way they wanted it to be.

So basically, this tribe of wandering nomads, grew big enough to conquer the Canaanites land, kill all who stood in their way and they were blameless, because God told them to.

If you look at the history of Israel, the Israelis have no real rights to it. Definitely not on the wishes of any God. They stole it from one tribe, repeatedly could never keep it until they got massive support from the US. The number of people who occupied the land include the Egyptians, Babylonians, Hittites, Romans, Christians, Muslims, Turks, Germans, English and now a bunch of Jewish nomads from mainly Europe and then across the world and now call it their homeland.

It was always home to Jews, Christians and Muslims. Now Israel wants to change that.
You can argue who has the rights to what land until your blue in the face, but possession is nine tenths of the law. Japan and Russia have been fighting over the Kuril Islands since the close of WW2.

I think it's all pointless anyhow. The population of Israel is 20% Arab and increasing daily. Eventually there will be more Arabs living in Israel than Jews. Then what?
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