Good post.
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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn
Paul, what you come up with makes sense to producers, but your preaching to the wrong audience here because most are webmasters who don't produce their content but get it from their sponsors. (or they just grab it from other sites).
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Totally. The problem is as Porno Jew points out, there's now only dozens of sites prepared to pay the cost of great content. Those that do, as he says are loved by members, I assume have lots of them and lots of webmasters send traffic. The model works.
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If you are a producer you need to make relatively more profit because you have higher costs. Webmasters hardly have any costs. They need a server and the book html for dummies and that's about it. Us producers need a studio, models, flights, equipment, etc etc.
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True. However we need a lot more than equipment. Many shooters have all that, they don't have the experience, personality and skills to direct models. Or ability to shoot 100 different pictures. When you have it, you're not shooting for $300 a scene exclusive for ATK.
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A webmaster can be happy with 10,000 hits per day, and 2 sign-ups. He'll be making profit that day.
A producer needs at least 10 sign-ups a day to keep going and 20 sign-ups a day to continue growing.
The way I see it is, that producers don't only need traffic, but also quality, unique material.
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That's what this thread is about. Getting more out of the traffic. The problem with getting
quality, unique material is the cost. It simply can't be done on the prices online in general pay. Every time one of them wants to show great content, they point to a few sites. There aren't a lot of sites to point at.
I recently reviewed Twistys and found the image sets simply weren't good enough from many producers to sell to magazines. Too many duplicated shots, wrong poses, bad poses. Etc.
Is the problem too little money after marketing costs or simply the lack of will. Because as PJ points out. Members love great content.
The piracy problem isn't going anywhere. Unless there's massive Government control it stays where it is or grows. We have to live with it and adapt our model to a better one.
Selling recorded porn is not easy, it's made harder when the content is much the same on 100s to 1,000s of sites. You protect your and the next guy doesn't. You still loses a sale.
So we need to offer more than recorded porn. That's so logical it's amazing. Live sells. Adapting the live model to the paysite model more than we do is an option. The only examples I've seen were upsells to 1-1 which is every where.
Would a site with live girls to chat to for the price of $30 a month
and all the recorded porn sell better than one with just recorded porn?
Would a site with live sex shows once twice a day, for the price of $30 a month
and all the recorded porn sell better than one with just recorded porn?
Would the cost of this be more than the benefits?
At the moment I see a trend of more and more people going for the free option. We need to think of a new strategy than just piling in more traffic. It's probably just coming from someone else, who will up his game and take it back.