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Old 09-21-2011, 09:05 AM  
EukerVoorn
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
I recently reviewed Twistys and found the image sets simply weren't good enough from many producers to sell to magazines. Too many duplicated shots, wrong poses, bad poses. Etc.

Is the problem too little money after marketing costs or simply the lack of will. Because as PJ points out. Members love great content.

The piracy problem isn't going anywhere. Unless there's massive Government control it stays where it is or grows. We have to live with it and adapt our model to a better one.

Selling recorded porn is not easy, it's made harder when the content is much the same on 100s to 1,000s of sites. You protect your and the next guy doesn't. You still loses a sale.

So we need to offer more than recorded porn. That's so logical it's amazing. Live sells. Adapting the live model to the paysite model more than we do is an option. The only examples I've seen were upsells to 1-1 which is every where.

Would a site with live girls to chat to for the price of $30 a month and all the recorded porn sell better than one with just recorded porn?

Would a site with live sex shows once twice a day, for the price of $30 a month and all the recorded porn sell better than one with just recorded porn?

Would the cost of this be more than the benefits?

At the moment I see a trend of more and more people going for the free option. We need to think of a new strategy than just piling in more traffic. It's probably just coming from someone else, who will up his game and take it back.
Paul I totally agree with you, we're still on the same page. I don't want to bash Twistys though, they have an unique recognizable style. I agree though that they should select their series more carefully. I've seen series with 30 close-ups of the vagina in a row. Apart from that... they do what they do and they made some great fetish videos wich I find surprisingly good.

As for investing in productions: I shoot a lot of different things from very mild to very extreme and pay models up to 5000 euro per day, cash. I fly them in from all over the world, including the USA. Many people told me, and still tell me, I'm crazy. But when paying models that kind of crazy money, they'll do anything you ask them to do, they push their own limits, and they'll keep doing it till 4 in the morning if neccessary to get the shoot done. My customers love what I shoot, they see gorgeous girls doing the filthiest stuff, and this is what porn is all about, and should be about. Being a good pornographer means you have to have the guts and be willing and be capable of re-inventing porn. Nobody is interested in copy cats. Remember the first Andrew Blake movie? Great stuff. How long did it take before other producers copied his style (black and white shots, slow motion, pans and tilts?)? And it was all CRAP!

I agree on the piracy problem but we have to continue trying fighting it, or else! We need to do the things I listed in my previous post about preventing piracy. I agree though that if your neigbor doesn't do anything against it, it still affects you. Why would people pay for YOUR porn if they can get your neigbors porn FOR FREE elsewhere?

I also agree on the LIVE thing. It's something I want to add to my sites soon. Pirates can never steal that from you, and they can never duplicate it, because they don't have the skills to produce. That's why they became pirate parasites in the first place :-)

Has there been any kind of parasite in recent history that humans weren't able to get rid off or at least control it?
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