Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

I don't take Paul at his word. I'm not a newbie in this industry, I've been running a porn production company for 20 years now, starting in the years that people couldn't even imagine that one day there would be something like the internet. In those 20 years I learned to listen to everybody who has to say something and try to filter out the informaton that might be useful for what I'm doing. I also learned to respect people, even the people that annoy me, or seem to be useless to me. And most important; what I learned from 15 years internet is that you shouldn't say things to people in a forum that you wouldn't say to them if you would meet them face to face either. Nobody ever called me a French faggot in my face because by then they already saw the size of my fists and you wouldn't call Paul a lying cunt if you were standing in front of him either. Now am I Jesus? No way, you should see the nasty stuff I'm writing to people on the Dutch groups of usenet (alt.madcrew is my home). It's easy to get dragged into the negativity, isn't it? I find staying positive and constructive one of the most difficult things in life, especially when I'm tired. But there's always one thing I've stayed away from, and that's pussy group behaviour, jump on one individual with a big group, and that's coward crap.

Even in the adult industry and even on a board called "Go fuck yourself" we should try to be PROFESSIONAL. The things people write about each other in here have nothing to do with professionalism but everything with amateurism. And again, I know it's hard. I can do my share of name calling on forums and even in private mail as well, but am far of proud of it.

I agree (again) that I know nothing about affiliation. I never used affiliation much, I mainly rely on Google AdWords (working great for me) and SEO (paying specialists in India for that, works great as well). I want to jump into affiliation soon though because there's money to be made. As for traffic, I know all about it from a self selling producer point of view, but not from an affiliate point of view. But like I wrote before, I want to learn. I came to this board to sort out my little problem with a payment processor and it's great to see that there is so much else to learn in here.

I wouldn't think that there's a lot of dummies hanging out here but I really get the impression that there's a lot of folks hanging out here who are making maybe $500 a month or less and consider themselves part of "the industry", either accepting this pathetic income or not believing they can do any better than this. Then if they're spending all day arguing with someone they don't agree with or don't like, I wonder why they don't get their ass moving and stop with the negativity and start working on their sites again. Porn Muslim is right when he claims that there are still plenty of sites doing well despites the tubes and the Russian cunts and I think what Paul is trying to say is that if you want, and if you work hard enough for it, you can still make good money in this web porn industry.

So when you don't see me posting in here anymore, you know why that is: I got back to work, trying to increase my sales a little again. I'm definitely not going to stick around in this arguing about nothing crap for a long time!