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Old 09-21-2011, 01:30 PM  
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Never said it would. so no idea where you got it from. I'm talking about converting better than we do. Maybe from 1-500 to 1-400, retaining an average of 7 weeks to an average of 8.
The same content, different tour/members area will convert differently like that. It's called split testing.



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Of course this is right, what is great to a guy who likes Glamor, is not to a guy who likes Amateur. No idea where you got this from, not from me. Even I know the site has to shape the ideas according to the niche/style. I've always said the same person shooting all the content for a site is limiting the viewers selection. Manwin is good in employing different shooters.
Some members like the exact same thing from the same person... same style, same total crap... and they buy and retain far past most sites.


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Of course that's adapting. So why hasn't online porn adapted? We still sell the same product we sold 13 years ago. All that's changed is resolution and size. Basically we haven't adapted anything but the mode of delivery and now losing customers because of the lack of adapting to the fact recorded porn is now every where for free. Online porn can deliver so much more than recorded porn. Some sites offer live porn. I'm adapting that model to the paysite model.
It has adapted... I can see many vast differences in porn from the mid 90's to today, and even more from the 80's to today, just in the actual content. I dang sure do not sell the same porn today as I did 10-15 years ago... it's vastly better today. Or like above, another form of content adaption is every unique twist, quality level, niche, styles, etc... "variety" is a form of adaption.


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This is a benefit not a disadvantage. Because the Internet mode of delivery is the only one that can use the idea and therefore puts it ahead in this area. Recorded porn can't, mobile porn can but the cost to the viewer is going to make it ineffective. You see it as a disadvantage for online porn, no idea why.
Where did I say disadvantage? I simply told you what the facts are, free internet porn is one micro bubble of porn income/traffic to tap into. You're focused on "it" and wondering why your ratios tanked or sales are tough, when the Internet has so many other traffic sources that produce sales, ie: bring your ratios back down.


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Insult again.
Hahaha, it's a movie quote.


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More insults. With no proof adapting those sites wouldn't make the perform better. The people who just want the "dam porn" are catered for fine, Tubes, pirated, paysites with stacks of porn are everywhere. Why do you think that's the only thing everyone wants?
That wasn't an insult... and, I said people want all different stuff... and not your eye.


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I'm telling people of something some could add to their sites to make them better. The situation is most simply couldn't afford it. A site with 1,000 would need to increase sign ups and retention by so much it's out of their reach. Unless they trim it back a lot. A girl 40 hours a week is going to cost from around $400 a week. $1600 a month. At $10 profit a sign up that's 160 sign ups, increase of 16%, will it perform that well? sites with 10,000 members only need an increase of 1.6%.
No, it will not perform that well. Sure, 10k member sites could prob make a few people happy... but so would updating more, being that is what they actually purchased and all.


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More insults. As you reached the wrong conclusions about what I'm posting, you don't have the right to say I have no idea.
No, that's not an insult.. you've stated it from your own mouth before. So I was slightly off one one thing and I missed everything about you?


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You think inside the box all the time. If people only want the porn, then they can get it for free. And are doing so in increasing numbers.
Right right... I think in the box and you're doing live cams finally..


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Thank you for answering it's clear you're reading my posts wrongly. This is in no way going to increase ratios to 1-1, it's wrong to assume that. In fact I have said it's out of the reach of most sites and only for the elite. Maybe I'm dreaming there's an elite who could afford it. How many sites have a 10,000 recurring membership? The way so many talk I would of thought quite a few.
No, I'm reading your posts dead on.... the 1:1 was me mocking you.

10k members is 300k a month, many sites make 300k a month - but that size isn't needed to have some fun. You really only need about 20 sales a day, 15-20k a month for a site, to really start doing more updates, new features, live stuff, etc... however, it's all comes down to what the surfer expects. If you sell them 5 videos, that's what they expect. If you sell them daily updates, that's what they expect. If you produce hq content, your surfers expect it, if it's amateur shot gf stuff, that's what they expect....

It's that simple, adaption is providing "them" with "exactly" what they want, when they want it and how they want it. Not changing what they're getting - what they purchased, not making it different... which means you're now attracting a different group of people and your leaving out those that expect to get exactly what was sold to them.
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