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Old 09-24-2011, 12:01 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Just Alex View Post
Like what? With all that knowlege your site could have been bigger than twistys, met-art and brazzers all combined.
Thank you for the praise.

I'm sure with my knowledge of creating a product that sells, making a site that's sticky and knowing how to market porn beside throwing out 1,000s of samples the same as everyone else has we could of made a good job of it. I look around and see the level of people who did and realise that maybe giving up an income many in the paysite game never got near was just a cozy choice.

But it's a tough choice. Up to our eyes in finding new girls, to shoot for a day and turn over $6,000 from 2-3 sets. In favor of shooting something that really would of set us apart from the rest of the pack and wouldn't of sold to traditional markets.

The decision we faced in 2000 was simple. Put up another teeny site that had little to offer above what 100s of others had to offer, except better shot content wasn't going to really cut it. You have to consider we were talking direct with the owners of some of these sites and when it came to buying content, they weren't talking big like they talk to affiliates. It was always the same, "Can't afford that."

After setting up, running and marketing the site, the budget for content was $300 a solo girl scene. Talk to them about shooting 200 in a year, under a contract, and they ran for the hills. Many of the people you think were big, could only afford to buy 30-50 sets at a time.

Were we going to switch from shooting magazine sets that sold for $1,000s over and over again, to a market that swallowed up everything or nearly everything we shot, which we still owned and still had sales online, to start a paysite that from our POV wasn't going to be as good a prospect?

If you have even been to the Vegas AVN show, that's the DVD one no online one, or Berlin Venus show. Then compare them the the Vegas Internext or Amsterdam show you would understand our dilemma.

Same goes for magazines. Visiting PRO, Galaxy, David Sullivan, Score, Crescent, Hustler, Swank and others offices and them knowing that some of the guys you praise are running from a tinny office or from even their homes. You think twice.

Online porn markets and markets to affiliates a lot more than to customers. It spends a small fortune marketing and paying affiliates and a tiny section to the real people who bring in the money. Customers.

And look where it got us. How many sites retain on average 6 months? That for offline porn isn't a big figure. People bought the same magazine or DVD title year after year.

Why did Private, Wicked, Digital Dreams and others spend a lot of money on 1 or 2 titles?

Why doesn't any site pay $100 PPS on a constant basis. Besides the fraud issue?

Think about while I take the dog for his walk.

shade001 you're an idiot. your only claim is being a faceless troll. As for creating traffic, you've never done that in your life. A man holding a sign in a street directing people into a shop isn't creating traffic. He's steering existing traffic. If you knew anything about converting traffic, you would be rich. Your game is holding up a sign for people looking at porn to look at some more porn and you're hoping 1 in a few 100 or few 1,000 will buy something.

So join my idiot list. Some call it an Ignore List, I would never ignore anyone with something worth listening to.
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