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Old 09-28-2011, 05:09 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by DamianJ View Post
What's that you say? Giving away porn for free is bad?

Why didn't you say so before?

Everyone, stop giving away porn.

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For the clueless it's the only route.

A lot is talked here of traffic, selling and marketing. Yet it's talk by the clueless.

Anyone who thinks getting traffic in porn is hard, is a fool. Getting men to look at porn is about as easy as getting women to look at babies.

Anyone who has to offer to 100 possible customers to sell to one isn't very good at selling or marketing. It's called supplying in the world of selling and marketing.

Anyone who has to give a product away free to 100 people isn't selling properly. It's laying things out for people to try in the hope 1 will like. That's not selling, it's supplying. Yes there's a sale at the end. Selling is something else.

Selling is finding buyers who need your product, showing them the benefits of it and then closing them on buying it.

We don't do that. The online porn buyers find us. We then offer them lots and lots of free samples in all niches, styles and strengths we possible can think of.

We try to get found by as many of these people as possible and give them the widest selection and as much free porn as we can to keep them coming back.

If the man on the street corner holding a sandwich board directing people to where they can get free coffee, in the hope 1 out of 100 will buy, is selling. Then what we do online is selling.

I'm told how clueless I am.

I went out and sold to every customer I approached. Yes every magazine publisher I approached I sold to them. Because I did my research into what they had, what they needed and made sure the product I approached them with met those needs.

Selling videos mail order. I sold sample discs, didn't have to give them away. Of course that would of sent me bankrupt and knew it. Even without that, the excuse of "I can, therefore I do." Isn't any use. A better excuse is, "I'm not capable of doing any better, so I'm stuck with this."

Selling via the stores. Long after all those who told me I was wrong for online, I'm still online and selling and they're gone. My content was so wrong, it was later accused of being sold everywhere. We never had to resort to shooting custom to make up our money. In fact custom paid less than the store sales.

We never had to worry about getting paid 2 weeks after the shoot to pay our bills. In fact 2 weeks after the shoot, we were still sorting the slides and hadn't shown them to a client. We got paid on average 6 months after we shot the content.

I get flamed by losers and a lot of clowns. Konrad thinks 1-800 is great. And he would give away more free porn if only he cold.

Jack Sparrow, reduced to selling ad space on Tubes.

Yes this industry is largely made up of fools and clowns. Who think the more free they give away the more money we all make. Truth is they can't sell anything and giving it away for free is their only way of earning a living.

Many say online porn gave access to millions who previously could get it. Look at the join stats and see where customers are. In countries we were selling porn to before. Yes there's the odd sign up from China, India and a few other places. The main areas we sold to was where porn was always sold. Different levels of course, from Playboy to Scat and Bestiality.

The access it gave millions was to consume for free.

If in 2011 the best thing Pimproll can do with the prime domain in porn, is put a Tube site on it. Online porn is fucked or the guys that run PR haven't got a better idea of how to monetize it. Or they can't afford to do anything better with it.

For me I can think of something better to do with it.

Stick a site on it that does away with affiliates and their costs. It will get all the traffic it needs. Make the site the best they have or create something that really turns heads. Then from inside the site, upsell to all their other sites.

Without the cost of traffic. The option is to give the surfer something knock out, prove it's great and drop the price to $20 or keep it at the same and spend the extra profit on the members area. With something better than LA porn valley porn scenes.

No they think the best way is to give away the content from their prime site, sell traffic and ad space and maybe get a few sign ups from the Tube. We all know how well it will convert and retain once the surfer has seen the stuff for free.

They're even going to let others upload their content. They don't have enough sites of their own to do that. Or just want to be a mega free site so they can sell lots of traffic at $1, per 1,000 or what ever. We all know the value of Tube traffic.

Pre recorded porn is dying as a sales item. We're left with Dating and Cams. So two avenues to make money. It could of still been 3 and the prime money maker would still be pre recorded porn.

Dating and Cams will never meet the revenue pre recorded porn was doing. They could of been doing exactly what they are doing in addition to, not instead of.

But people couldn't see this in 2000. Or could and chose to ignore it. Well yes, people in 2000 were saying giving away too much is losing sales. But fools could only give it away to get sales, selling and marketing was way beyond their reach.
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