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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous
To be honest, I think unless you are a very big player in this industry, which twistys (manwin now) is, buying all these ad spots from tube sites isn't as profitable as one would think. These surfers are non buyers from my experience, im in the solo niche and i've seen models videos get on there, get the top viewed video and not even have any sort of spike of sales, after 500,000+ views. Its actually quite depressing. I think most could spend 10,000 on ads and not get close to 10,000 back, even in the long run.
Maybe if you have a brand like twistys that is EXTREMELY large and can cater to almost any area (dating, cams, solo, etc) but how many players are like that in this industry anymore?
I completely agree that the whole style of tour could definitely use some out of the box thinking and fresh ideas. It's not as common for people to try new ideas because the profit margin has decreased so much over the years that taking risks isn't the best option. These days its best to play the safe route unless you have the capital to recover from failed projects
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I think you are thinking about this too narrowly. If you have a model that had 500,000 views there is something there. Whether it's the model or the type of video. The key MAY BE throwing out everything that seems logical and that you've learned in the biz and trying to attack this from a different angle.
You have a solo girl that kills on views. Does she do cams? Have you tried pushing cams on the landing page (and the domain url in the video)? What about girls that look like her why not push the surfers to girls that look like that girl?
Reality is you take a site like Xhamster doing over a million a month. You say you can't make your money on it. Others are. My thinking was HOW do i get a piece of that?
Like theDoc said some sites are converting tubes well enough to advertise on them. I wanted to change my tour so I could first come close to covering my ad costs and then improve the Twistys sales pitch to tube surfers. So at the end of the day Twistys brand would be bigger, Twistys tour would sell tube surfers better and Twistys memberships sell better to tube traffic.
It's a rough idea and I wrote it catered specifically to Twistys. It can be modified to any size imo.