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Old 09-30-2011, 03:46 PM  
Pseudonymous
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Originally Posted by Shap View Post
I think you are thinking about this too narrowly. If you have a model that had 500,000 views there is something there. Whether it's the model or the type of video. The key MAY BE throwing out everything that seems logical and that you've learned in the biz and trying to attack this from a different angle.

You have a solo girl that kills on views. Does she do cams? Have you tried pushing cams on the landing page (and the domain url in the video)? What about girls that look like her why not push the surfers to girls that look like that girl?

Reality is you take a site like Xhamster doing over a million a month. You say you can't make your money on it. Others are. My thinking was HOW do i get a piece of that?

Like theDoc said some sites are converting tubes well enough to advertise on them. I wanted to change my tour so I could first come close to covering my ad costs and then improve the Twistys sales pitch to tube surfers. So at the end of the day Twistys brand would be bigger, Twistys tour would sell tube surfers better and Twistys memberships sell better to tube traffic.

It's a rough idea and I wrote it catered specifically to Twistys. It can be modified to any size imo.
Sadly i have a model that doesn't do cam shows, so youre right, that would be another bonus. And if i did, i would push that pretty hard

But you have to look at what im telling you, im talking next to 0 sales. Your model can do cams, you can change your tours to target something else, etc etc . But if youre getting 500,000 views from tube sites and getting next to 0 sales, if you think you can tinker around enough to break even, youre going to most likely lose money on the situation.

I said you can make money off sites like xhamster but do I think the typical paysite can, the typical paysite having a smaller-medium collection, or only one model, its pretty rare.

I believe what would work for a company the size of twistys and the typical is very different.

I know you wrote that specifically talking about your idea for twistys and your post will get people thinking for sure, so im all for it. I was only knocking the tube traffic and giving my experiences and opinion on the traffic so every new business doesn't think they can go buy some tube traffic and that they can profit from it with some custom tours. Sometimes you simply dont have a product or selection that could sway tube surfers to break out the credit card, which is more likely than a few guys around here are making it out to be
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