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Old 10-01-2011, 12:09 AM  
AJHall
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Yeah i agree with all of those tips for sure, the video and photography was done by my photographer and its what i had to deal with, more amateur video and more professional photography. Luckily i have taken over in that department.

Well i wouldn't say offering a cheaper alternative is an answer for most, i really think a high percentage of customers only signup once, gather all the content and come down after 6-12 months to download all the newest stuff. Atleast thats what i gather from my website and the other owners i speak to. So if you offer a cheap alternative to get their feet wet, you'll end up losing to the people who download everything they can and cancel. Its especially a bad idea for a solo girl website that doesn't offer webcam shows.

Yeah the watermark issue has bugged me for quite some time, though i haven't done anything about it and very much need to do so.

I haven't dabbled in selling zip sets to be honest but i will be doing so in the near future for sure.

I do agree alot of those things will increase revenues and good tips for obtaining more sales from the free traffic. But i really dont think it can make bought traffic worth it, how much would you say it'd cost for a banner or advertisement that would bring 500,000 clicks? do you really think with those tips, you could bring it from 0 sales to 30-100 full priced ($25) sales or however many you need to pay off the cost of the ad placement? If you think so, i'd love to see you get into the solo niche in 2011 and give it a try you can tinker with a site and maybe improve it 25% but you could only take it so far with improvements like the ones you speak of, especially without the crazy interaction that comes with camshows and going above and beyond.

My reason for posting in this thread wasn't to really discuss how to generate more sales from tube sites, however it is good to speak about and im up for the conversation but my original post was in regards to breaking even with bought traffic from tube sites. And we can come up with great ideas for improvements but if you think you can spend 5k on advertisements on a tube site and get 5k in sales back, unless one of us do so, and i sure am not and you no longer run websites. I beg to differ and sadly there is no way to prove otherwise. I guess i can only say, i disagree. No solo girl i know could do so. And minor tweaking an custom tours isn't enough to bring it over the edge. IMO

I would really like to hear about anyone on GFY who has a smaller business that has paid over 1000 in adspace on a tube site and profited on it. Im not saying its impossible but i'd love to point out the reasons why that may be and why most couldn't.
Cheaper pricing can work wonders. If the trend is for members to join, cancel and then come back 6-12 months later, they're not being given enough incentive to stick around. Something needs to change so that the only way for a member to see large amounts of new content is to stay an active member of the site.

Time release of content in conjunction with automated content rotation cycles AND updates by date can be helpful for smaller sites. Many times this enables even a very small site to benefit from offering low priced trials. With hot content and the right hook this strategy can convert to full price memberships quite well.

As far as bought traffic being worth it, in order for it to be worth it you'd need to already have a site that's converting that type of traffic at a decent rate. You're right, in today's market, profiting from a costly tube advertising campaign that's promoting a solo site without cams and heavy interaction would be a very big challenge.
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