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Old 10-01-2011, 12:10 AM  
Pseudonymous
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Originally Posted by movieguy View Post
There are a lot of programs that would completely disagree with the latter point.

BUT you must have your customer experience pathway laid out from when they watch the video, to clicking the banner, landing on your preview area, and arriving at the join page.

Back at sextube, we tried to work with webmasters to optimize their strategy, yet only 1 out of 100 webmasters would give it a try. Somehow running tubes AND a huge, famous paysite like twistys with extensive experience uploading to tubes, doesn't mean anything.

Even at pornhub, Chris has a hard time getting webmasters to listen to him and that blows my mind because he helps run the biggest tube in the world. If he took time out of his busy day to give you some attention, why the heck wouldn't you hear him out??
I didn't say you can't make money on it, i said its very much possible, but do i think the typical paysite can, no and tinkering isn't enough for those paysites, those people who would disagree probably run very large networks or a very large website. I dont think advertising on tubes is the best option for small-medium sized paysites is all im saying

Theres a reason more dont give it a try, it doesn't make very much sense. I was weary before i did it, i tested it , as have many other webmasters i speak to and none of them have continued to do so.

While i do think webmasters don't jump onboard with new ideas as most are stuck in their ways, however this is definitely not one most are missing out on.

Feel free to contact me and give me a free test, or something along those lines. Ill be happy to do anything you wish to try to profit on tube traffic and ill post the results.

And as far as you throwing out his reputation with what he has grown, while im not knocking at what hes created, i believe alot of people on gfy underestimate when a product was launched. Do i believe the majority of people who have built their empires could if they started over from scratch in 2011, i sure do not. I think most of them are pretty intelligent and work hard but there are alot of very intelligent people who cannot grow networks like twistys these days because times have changed. The internet was very accepting to hard working people with ideas, gallery submitters were retiring at 25-30 years old. I could go on. If you think reputations or what you've done is going to make me listen to what they've got to say, then show me what you've really done besides adapt.

I know alot of people who I wouldn't consider very intelligent people who have became very successful because of the time they got into the industry and because they actually kept working on it through the times. Instead of sitting on their hands. This industry attracts alot of unmotivated, just plain lazy individuals who are looking to make an easy buck, its always been like that and while alot of people still failed in 1999-2004, the ones who succeeded aren't exactly people that should be looked at like they've got any more ability than the typical webmaster who is semi successful in 2011.

For example, i think Shap is a very intelligent guy, do i think he could recreate twistys or even something close to that magnitude with no budget right now? I dont believe so. And thats even with the reputation and connections he's already made by making it to where he is now.

Edit-- Really hope this post doesn't look like a knock on Shap, i simply used him as an example of why i think what a person owns who what theyve created doesn't always reflect their knowledge and ability.

Last edited by Pseudonymous; 10-01-2011 at 12:22 AM..
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