Yes on a few Tubes, fucking awful.
Sausage had one and we were the top video liked and viewed, hardly sent traffic and no sign ups. Couldn't be just me, he sold out and is gone from adult.
Then a few more and it was awful.
AEBN have or had one and they were affiliates, sent 10,000s of hits a day. Absolutely floods of them, a few sign ups. Looked at the site. It was a coded link saying "See more of Paul Markham Teens." Looked at the stats and the average stay was seconds, they thought they were getting more free stuff and when they saw a paysite they didn't even bother to look around.
I have no doubt they have traffic that will convert and many of you are working the Tubes. But conversions of 1-500 is losing 499. Losing 498 would be better. Then how many views to see a surfer go to a site? 10, 20, 30?
That's 1-4,000 or 1-8,000 or 1-12,000. That's where the money has gone. Maybe 1-8,000. No industry can sustain that loss if it grows.
Tubes are mopping up the traffic fast, leaving little. And the traffic mopped up is converting worse than it used to. The next move will be more Tubes giving away more content. As TC said, it can't be changed.
No tell me how you get 100 views on a Tube and 5 sales or something equally crazy. Everyone knows the picture. Tubes sell traffic at crap prices, because it's not worth any more. If traffic is king, the kingdom is skint.
What you have to remember is my POV. I remember the days when Private flew a crew to shoot porn in Bali, Thailand, New Zealand, rented huge castles. When movies like the one Max shot were normal for many. When a magazine would pay $2,000 for a solo girl set, as a norm. And one decent video title sold 10,000 times in the US alone, every month and with rental on top.
The great days are over. Some of you were here in the good days and they're over.
Without being nasty, do you think where you will be in 3-5 years time, business wise?
