Originally Posted by Robbie

I watched the debate. Thought it was great.

The only two people on that stage whom I thought shouldn't be there were Santorum (religious nutcase) and Bachman (religious nutcase)

Listening to the things the rest of the candidates had to say and the proposals they made...I found a lot to agree with. Especially the energy policies.

I'm in disagreement with the "fence" idea for Mexico. (sounds like our version of the "iron curtain" to me)

I'm also in disagreement with some of the candidates (like Santorum and Bachman) who just blindly want to fund the military. I find Ron Paul's views on the whole military spending issue to be sane.
Say what you want about the man...but he tells it like it is and doesn't care about applause lines.

Newt Gingrich is without a doubt the most intelligent politician on the Republican or Democratic side. The guy is just so damn smart. No wonder he and Clinton were able to work together back in the 90's...two VERY smart guys.

To BFT3K...dude, do you even care about issues? You seem to be so darn pro-democrat that it's kinda making you look bad.

Those guys onstage tonight made some very good points. Obama makes some good points as well in his speeches. Shouldn't you be listening to what these people are saying instead of just blindly following your political party? Isn't that what's wrong with our country?

I voted for Clinton, Bush, and Obama over the last 20 years. I voted for who I thought had the best ideas. Not for a political party or left or right idealogy.

Dude, I know you're a smart guy. And I know that politics and religion are two things you should never discuss...but come on! You keep starting threads touting how great everything Democrat is and how stupid and backwards everything Republican is.

Did you take a look at the crowd there? Did you see all the well dressed YOUNG people?

You can't just keep painting with these broad brushes on people dude. One minute Republicans are "stupid, hillbilly, racist, rednecks" and the next they are "rich billionaire tycoons with Ivy League education"
That's quite a stretch!

Both Dems and Repubs are just people. And if more people started looking at individual issues and voted what they BELIEVE in...I think our country would be better off.

Nothing is helped or solved by you making threads that turn this into a football game mentality. This is not a sports competition.
But in a way you're exemplifying it.

Just like when some guy sitting on a couch screams "WE WON!!!" when his team wins..he didn't win ANYTHING! He was just sitting there and the guys on his favorite team don't even know he exists and wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.

Guess what? The people in "your" political party are the same. They wouldn't do anything for either one of us. They DON'T CARE about us.

So why keep the mentality at this level? It's not gonna help President Obama get re-elected.
I like the guy. But he has been very lame. And unless he gets off the campaign trail and figures out a way to bring unemployment down...he's done. No president has ever won re-election with unemployment at this level.

He made a major miscalculation in his first two years screwing around with the whole Health Care issue while the countries economy continued to sink and people need JOBS.

That's why him being on the campaign trail instead of working his ass off back in Washington looks SO bad to so many people.
He is making a major miscalculation spending the last two years campaigning after the already bad first two years...

He needs to pull out a miracle. And I don't see that miracle happening from him giving speeches around the country. Time for talk is over for him.