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Originally Posted by sperbonzo
I understand that you have lived in a grey little socialist world over there for the few years you have been on the planet, I lived there myself for 4 years back in the early 80s, doing my "O" levels and "A" levels.... So I realize that you have not been exposed to any other school of thought but the one that thinks that giving more power to a group of people that have the legal right to use force to impose their decisions on you is a good idea.... Have you ever read Frederic Bastiat? Or Ludwig von Mises? You should give them a try sometime.
Here is a thought from Bastiat... "If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? "
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The idea of a democracy is that we, the people, control the state for the common good.
The UK is not a socialist country, has not been a socialist country, but the people in this country won a few victories against the rich and the privileged,
After WW2 we had a national health service, free education, social housing, school meals and old age pensions, we had unemployment benefit.
This was because capitalism had failed to give people a health, service, housing etc....
Was this government big or small - who gives a fuck, it was allowing people to live a have decent life.
Now are politicians always copying US crap ideas, not because they work, but because they make the rich richer have privatized education, sold off social housing attacked trade Unions (The right to strike break and kiss the employers arse -that freedom )
Now you talk about the State being repressive, yes thats the view of the founding fathers, because the State supported the monarchies of Europe, thats why they were opposed to it, Now the state supports the ultra rich, and they are the ones talking bullshit about a small state.
Cause they want you to work for the them, but not to have any social responsibility for the welfare of the people.