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Old 10-24-2011, 01:30 AM  
AtlantisCash
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i have to say even some of the people who called themselfs to have Libertarian views sound kinda miss guided here.

1. as a person with Libertarian values i don't oppose world is globalizing, nations are closely started to know eachother , communication and information technologies are improving, this is not against Libertarian ideas but actually we're siding by it, because we support free trade and stuff.

2. i believe Bill8's statemen has made with good intention but his post is missing so many points.



Even though this earth had so many problems and political bullshit to overcome, we actually kinda going twoards Libertarianism and this wont be just in the hand of political parties but with technology and economy.

Some people here and commen have to learn that wellfare state has no place to live anymore, if anyone still saying otherwise and believing is misssleading Him/Herself or other people as welll, welfare state is going bye bye, people need to learn acting smarther, sorry to say this but if You have too mutch trust for government, don't cry when social state logic is completely gone or in an imurgency situation.

let me explain how we're going twoards Libertarianism and how actually we base our arguements to real events.

legitimet government: there is no legitimet government, as a humanity our needs and social evolution will clerify when the abolish state mechanism completely, but at first we have to reduce it's roll on individual's life, so firstly we should pull it the minarchy level.

how this will happen?

a. governments will have to compete due to globalism because pressed ones easyly can move somewhere else and and when governments lose well educated and rich ones, it's not good for them.

B. flexibility on economics, going twoards free market, reducing taxation,
more acception of gay and lesbian couples, a bit more flexible drug policy, privatization, alternative marriage contracts,destroying teocracies/dictatorships and and greatest invention of this age (internet),it's already happenning.

C. unlike some old fassion brains think police kinda privatized already, subdevisions/sub cities, Universities, companies have their own security staff, private security companies already handking this which You can see as biggining of a reality.

D. oil based economic and Nation states are collapsing, so this all kinda showing us that we need of a Livertarian understanding.


i also should mention that Robbie summed it up very well why we have Libertarian views on things

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