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Originally Posted by Shotsie
Yes, the Bible contains its own sadistic lunacy?but the above quotations can be fairly said to convey the central message of the Qur?an?and of Islam at nearly every moment in its history. The Qur?an does not contain anything like a Sermon on the Mount. The result is a religious hatred that has become a problem for the entire world. And the world still waits for moderate Muslims to speak honestly about it.
Let me ask you this if it's such a peaceful religion then Is Denmark responsible for the massive rioting, killing and arson that followed the publishing of cartoons from an obscure Danish newspaper? Is Western foreign policy responsible in any way for inspiring that violence? Should we in the West be censoring ourselves from caricaturing Muhammad or insulting Islam because that would inflame Muslim opinion and harm our security interests?
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You fail to mention that while you say these things, Muslims haven't been waging wars with people, it is western nations waging war with Muslims. You talk about those Denmark things but with 1.5 billion Muslims there is going to be some extreme ones just like there are extreme Christian groups that murder and kill.
Here is an interesting statistic if you want to talk about European terrorism:
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The report is produced by Europol, which is the criminal intelligence agency of the European Union. In 2009, there were fewer than 300 terrorist incidents in Europe, a 33 percent decline from the previous year. The vast majority of these incidents (237 out of 294) were conducted by indigenous European separatist groups, with another forty or so attributed to leftists and/or anarchists. According to the report, a grand total of one (1) attack was conducted by Islamists. Put differently, Islamist groups were responsible for a whopping 0.34 percent of all terrorist incidents in Europe in 2009. In addition, the report notes, "the number of arrests relating to Islamist terrorism (110) decreased by 41 percent compared to 2008, which continues the trend of a steady decrease since 2006."
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http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/...islamic_terror
So maybe what you need to do is really come to terms with who the aggressors are in the situation. Sure there are some violent things in the Quran but there are violent things in the Bible and in the Torah but it doesn't mean that those are the things all Muslims are following just like not all Christians are strictly following the bible.
You need to get rid of your hate for Islam and realize that the vast, vast majority of Muslim people are just like you and me.
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Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal
No, I am saying the goal of any US attack is rarely to conquer and occupy. Its to break a country so that it can rebuild with us contractors and supervision. After they are broken we then squat in that country until they 'welcome' or 'accept' us.
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So how long would it be until you gave up fighting? How long until you break? Would seeing your family killed break you or enrage you and make you fight harder?
Iranians will never accept a US military presence in their country just like you would never accept a military Chinese presence in the US.
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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ
.... I think you forgot that Japan did bomb Perl Harbor first. So it's a bit hard to understand what your unserstanding of a "terrorist attack" means.
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Japan didn't just up one day and decide to attack Pearl Harbor. It was after the US cut off all resources to Japan that the Japanese had no choice but to attack. That said Pearl Harbor was a military target and an attack on a military population. The two bombs that were dropped were dropped with the intention of literally terrorizing the Japanese into surrendering.