Originally Posted by gideongallery

he said both

that why i put both quotes in the list

the second one i referenced was as a moral justification for the revolution against the british

the former was to quell the desire to surrender to the british. He had to say the former multiple times in multiple different ways because there were a lot of people who wanted to give up

he wasn't taking about porn either, so what your point
should we outlaw this entire industry.




you realize that you just declared it absolutely guarrenteed that peoples rights are going to get trampled if we put this law on the book right

second

you have already acknowledged that open source proves putting your shit in the public domain doesn't stop you from selling it

so are you deliberately lying here.





seriously moron what about the word NEW rights do you not understand

who said anything about changing all the old ways of taking down piracy

every company has the right to keep using all the old rights already established.





your the one who said



i just gave you two examples where the people with the money didn't get what they want.

if you want another recent example look at yes men pretending to be the chamber of commerce to decry "clean coal"



their exposing of the lies of that lobby group and as a result the bills they were all proposing got killed.

in fact the government reversed some of their long standing opposition to Kyoto agreement




the the problem it only works if you keep the actions a secret
do you think people would have voted bush in if they knew he was going to do this in advance

that exactly why i like things like asking for an amendment that void the copyright of any company that abuses the new permissions ONLY when the new rights are abused

rather then trying to fight

because they object they undeniable prove that the law is GOING TO BE ABUSED.

In advance of the law being passed they say we are going to take away your rights, we are going to do nothing to prevent your rights from getting squashed and the only way you can stop us is to not elect the politicians we have bought with our money.






Personally i will simply support "yes man" approach

agree to give you the innovation killing/fair use killing rights you claim you need to destroy the pirates (and only the pirates) if you put a clause that punishes copyright holders equally for killing innovation /fair use.

And then watch you explicitly admit that the law is going to get abused when you complain about how unfair it is to expect you to do due diligence before using the nuclear option.