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He contacted me on ICQ after the posts in the original thread. Here was the result of that conversation:
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Mark -GTS (DH) 5:52 PM are you brain damaged?
Mark -GTS (DH) 5:52 PM why in the world would you post that?
Mark -GTS (DH) 5:52 PM Are you taking medication or something?
Mark -GTS (DH) 5:53 PM depressed?
Edgeprod 6:10 PM Nah, none of the above!
Edgeprod 6:10 PM Why WOULDN'T I post that?
Edgeprod 6:10 PM It's been four years, you haven't even made a TOKEN payment .. that's kind of lame.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:13 PM do you think posting that will get you anything from me?
Edgeprod 6:13 PM Back then, you told me it'd take a few months. After a few years, and 6-month-interval reminders, you haven't so much as farted a quarter in my direction. Does it shock you thank I'd want to eventually be paid?
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:13 PM you're not getting paid now
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:14 PM i can tell you that with 100% certainty
Edgeprod 6:14 PM So, I was getting paid, but now that after 4 years I've asked to be paid, I'm not?
Edgeprod 6:14 PM That makes sense.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:14 PM dude what did you actually build for us?
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:14 PM what did you actually deliver
Edgeprod 6:14 PM What didn't I build for you?
Edgeprod 6:14 PM What didn't I deliver/
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:14 PM i had to hire a guy to fix all your programming from what i remember
Edgeprod 6:14 PM I built everything you asked, never missed a dealine, and only stopped the deliverables when you got 3 months behind on payments.
Edgeprod 6:15 PM I seriously doubt that.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:15 PM obv you have taken many punches to your head
Edgeprod 6:15 PM I believe that you hired a guy to make changes. I don't believe anything didn't work, because we tested it.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:15 PM over the course of your failed mma career
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:15 PM so you don't remember very much anymore
Edgeprod 6:15 PM I'm an amateur MMA athlete, I wouldn't consider it a career .. and I've only had 3 losses against 6 wins, so I doubt the failure part, too.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:15 PM if you think i owe you money, please enter into a court of law and come sue me.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:16 PM i'm not hiding
Edgeprod 6:16 PM You know I wouldn't do that over such a small amount.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:16 PM but berating me on gfy will get you no where
Edgeprod 6:16 PM And I never thought that you were a scumbag that didn't pay his debts and needed to be sued. Is that what you're saying? In order for contractors to get paid by you, they need to sue you?
Edgeprod 6:16 PM I thought more highly of you.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:16 PM i thought you would do a good job and deliver a quality project
Edgeprod 6:17 PM Which I did.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:17 PM no you did not
Edgeprod 6:17 PM And I have the e-mails from both you and Devin to confirm that.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:17 PM i had to hire someone full time to come in and fix that
Edgeprod 6:17 PM As well as ICQ conversations where you express how much you liked the deliverables, how much the products were selling, etc.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:17 PM All you did was try me on your failed feed system
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:17 PM the whole fucking times
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:17 PM the one that you made for playboy
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:17 PM that they obv thought as shit
Edgeprod 6:17 PM Never once did you complain, until you were 3 months late on payment, then you made some excuses about some features you "forgot" to include.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:18 PM you tried me to buy their system that you built for them
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:18 PM and i could smell the horseshit dom
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:18 PM that is why i never wanted it
Edgeprod 6:18 PM If they thought them as shit, I don't know why they engaged me for 3 months to begin with at $10,000 per month, then another 9 months at $10,000 per month, followed by another year renewal. Odd behavior of they don't like the product.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:18 PM now you are trying to hardball me in regards to paying you for a project that you never delivered on
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:18 PM what world do you live in?
Edgeprod 6:18 PM I delivered, front to back.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:18 PM bullshit
Edgeprod 6:19 PM You used the system until you shut down your failed business.
Edgeprod 6:19 PM Not bullshit. You e-mailed me expressing that I had done a good job, called me and said the same, and also said the same on ICQ.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:19 PM yeah i'm a huge failure thanks for reminding me 
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:19 PM LOL
Edgeprod 6:19 PM Submitpasses, Mark.
Edgeprod 6:19 PM Which is what you're referring to.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:19 PM sell anymore cars recently?
Edgeprod 6:19 PM If you're saying that selling my Dodge Viper is due to financial failure, I fail to follow the logic.
Edgeprod 6:20 PM A paid off high-end car that I sold to invest in a company. Odd logic, again.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:20 PM i see someone that obv is on meds, that is broke and is now tryin to strong arm me to pay a debt that was never owed
Edgeprod 6:20 PM It's unfortunate that you say that you're so dishonest that someone needs to sue you to get paid. I'm very sorry to hear that.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:20 PM you didn't deliver plain and simple
Edgeprod 6:21 PM I delivered, on time every time, and with good code. Devin, your COO at the time, can verify that. So can your e-mails, ICQs, and phone calls. You can't re-write history, unfortunately.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:21 PM if you disagree with that, that's your prerogative
Edgeprod 6:21 PM When you failed to pay for the third month (about $18,000 owed at that point), I told you I couldn't deliver more product without you catching up.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:21 PM Devin no longer works for me
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:22 PM and he was never my coo
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:22 PM you have your information wrong
Edgeprod 6:22 PM Your web site listed him as what, Operations?
Edgeprod 6:22 PM I'm just going by memory -- I don't study GTS. I have no reason to. My only involvement with them is that they owe me $38,750.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:22 PM in your mind we owe you that
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:23 PM in reality we do not
Edgeprod 6:23 PM You can try to re-write history all you want, but the debt is the debt. Your claim is that you're so dishonest that someone with a contract needs to sue you in order to collect money owed to them.
Edgeprod 6:23 PM That's unfortunate.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:23 PM Cool please send me the contract we had
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:23 PM i would love to see the paperwork
Edgeprod 6:23 PM Okay. I have it saved, like everything else. I'll post it in the thread for you.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:23 PM you can post whatever you like Dom
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:23 PM it will not get you paid
Edgeprod 6:23 PM I'm posting what you asked for.
Edgeprod 6:24 PM I'm aware that you're too dishonest to make payments to a vendor. I hope other vendors don't draw conclusions from that.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:24 PM lol
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:24 PM you never delivered
Edgeprod 6:24 PM But you were delivered a product, it worked well, and now you're trying to say that it didn't. Unfortunately, the facts don't back that up.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:24 PM plain and simple
Edgeprod 6:24 PM I did indeed deliver.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:24 PM we had to hire someone to fix your work
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:24 PM no you did not
Edgeprod 6:24 PM I have the e-mails to you, to Devin, and back from both of you stating that the project was complete, was satisfactory, and made you money.
Edgeprod 6:25 PM Then why did you e-mail me and tell me what a good job I did?
Edgeprod 6:25 PM You told me in ICQ that you hired a programmer that wasn't me to A) save money, and B) make changes that you "forgot" to include on the spec sheet.
Edgeprod 6:25 PM I can post all of that for you to refresh your memory as well.
Edgeprod 6:25 PM The reality is that I delivered, I delivered well, and you didn't pay.
Edgeprod 6:25 PM Anything else isn't supported by reality or evidence.
Edgeprod 6:26 PM Every e-mail, ICQ, and contract backs up my story.
Edgeprod 6:26 PM Your story is backed up by a guy who is butthurt that his fraud came out into the light after being given 4 years to pay.
Edgeprod 6:26 PM And now, as a "penalty," you say I won't collect.
Edgeprod 6:26 PM That's very good business, and I applaud you.
Edgeprod 6:26 PM As a person, not so much.
Edgeprod 6:27 PM Anyway, I'm headed out to dinner now. We just got a new house and have to choose decorations. Don't worry -- your fat head will still adorn my dart board.
Edgeprod 6:27 PM Take care, Mark. Sorry to learn what you've become .. or perhaps always were.
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:27 PM This is obv not going anywhere. Please e-mail me moving forward and i will direct you to my lawyer
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:27 PM [email protected]
Mark -GTS (DH) 6:27 PM have a nice life dom
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