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Originally Posted by pompousjohn
sounds more like a chatter or a craigslist scammer.
If he was straight up carding the CB ratio would likely be in the 30 to 50% range after 60 days.
check to see if the customer first names are about half women, (or anything over ~5%) that would be a sure sign of carding.
Are the join IP's in the same towns as the billing addresses?
Look at the usernames and email addresses, do they seem legit or made up? Are they 100% free emails or are there some cox/comcast etc. in there?
Many carders now are mixing their carding joins with some legit traffic source to get away with it longer and try to get a pay cycle or two out of the program before they get caught.
Either way it sounds like the traffic may not be right for you, clearly there is something fishy going on but if it's not pure carding, there is a good chance your CB's wont go too much higher.
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Thanks for the sound reply man. That's what I was hoping for with this thread.
Yes, we do look at the email addresses and whatnot to see if they look fishy, and also do cross-check IPs with addresses. Just have to do it a bit more I think. Have mostly been just "spot-checking" randomly.
In the case of this particular affiliate my post is about, I think your thoughts here are spot on:
"Many carders now are mixing their carding joins with some legit traffic source to get away with it longer and try to get a pay cycle or two out of the program before they get caught."
He is sending between 500 and 1000 hits daily according to NATS, so I don't think he was straight-up carding, but perhaps sending some genuine traffic also. That fact has me leery of going ahead and refunding all of his joins outright as some others had suggested here. (I still may do so however)
Another thing interesting about your sentence quoted above; it makes one wonder, what is their business model? Just to get away with it long enough for one or two payouts? Then what? Then you're busted and the payouts stop. Just move on to the next program and hope for another one or two payouts?
To me it doesn't seem like a very sustainable practice. Maybe carding takes such little effort that they don't care much. I don't know.