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Old 11-30-2011, 10:06 AM  
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Originally Posted by moeloubani View Post
the Palestinian/Israeli conflict isn't so much about land ownership as it is about equality

the Palestinians are oppressed and not allowed to prosper while the other side has all the advantages and benefits of a modern society

all Palestinians want is equality, they are tired of being treated like sub grade humans just because of their race and/or religion

but things are moving in the right direction and the Palestinians are fighting for a way to be able to govern themselves and distance themselves from the oppression and brutality that Israel puts them through day after day

http://www.npr.org/2011/11/29/142920...nize-palestine

But it's not Israel that's holding them down. Seems to me the entire Arab world has no desire to see them do well either. The Palestinians need to create a government, create a country, and then start acting like a country. Then they need to pray that Israel will accept them and knock off their shit.

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog View Post
This is the point - Israel is not going to be negotiated out of existence.

No amount of shouting accusations at each other and sabre rattling is going to achieve the demise of Israel. So the haters from both sides may as well just STFU.

The only way to get rid of Israel is with a war that could easily spark something that will be catastrophic for the whole world.

The only real option is to work out a way that Israel can exist peacefully in that region.

I don't think a war with Israel will solve anything. Israel, and more specifically the Jewish race, is one of the few races in the world that was faced with extinction. They take their defense very, very seriously. They've bitch smacked the entire Middle East more than once.

I think Israel will cease to be a Jewish state in the future. The Muslim population there is rising, and soon there will be more Muslims living in Israel than Jews. One fourth of Israel is not Jewish, and that percentage is growing.
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