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Old 12-09-2011, 03:35 PM  
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Originally Posted by SubAms View Post
It's worth a try rather than sit on the domain for another few years wondering what if..
I'd try to add 1 or 2 exclusive sets a month to start with and increase that number as the site grows.
Best of luck with it
Thanks - 'Bite off more than you can chew, then chew like hell'

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Originally Posted by Mutt View Post
Shap's explained it many times, he was very successful with non-exclusive content - the problem was his biggest and best suppliers of glamour content(Cloud9, Matrix, JokerSX) went out of business. He had no choice but to start hiring out photographers for exclusive glamour content.

I think if the non-exclusive content was available even today you can still create a paysite that is moderately successful in the glamour niche. IF, and it's a big IF, you can generate enough of your own targeted quality traffic. Without exclusive content you'll have next to no luck getting affiliate traffic.

If I wanted to find non-exclusive glamour content I would try to contact the DVD studios - they shoot stills sets as well as video. Times are tough, maybe some of them would license photosets and videos for a decent price.

Check out Adult Centro, I saw some glamour photosets on there of current adult stars.

Glamour is a tough niche.
Mutt - was hoping you would chime in on this thread.

Traffic - I can feed the site traffic, not insane amounts, however enough to get regular signups / test if the site converts.

I checked out Adult Centro and could not find many photo sets on there - I think it was one in the niches I selected. I'll have another look.

I have been finding it quite difficult to find content of specific models ie Marry Queen / Carrie Du Four - if anyone knows where I can find these models / types of models - would appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by plsureking View Post
if u do non-exclusive then your price has to be dirt cheap. im talking like $5 a month. and that price doesn't really say 'glamour'. the problem with glamour is you can't really come up with something new, even with a ton of dough. almost every glamour site is a copy of another. if u want to make money and are set on glamour, you have to tweak it somehow. like glamour milfs, sleeping glamour, glamour creampies, etc. otherwise you have zero chance of success.
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$5 a month = I personally would never buy a membership, that would indicate to me the site is a piece of shit (perceived value).

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Originally Posted by Peter Romero View Post
Brazzers used to be 100% NON-EXCLUSIVE content. They hired me to shoot some share (semi-exclusive) content for them. I kept telling them that they needed to go exclusive or they'd never make thier mark. The consumer doesn't give 2 shits how much money you saved on content BTW - they just buy or log off. "I've never seen her, that, him, whatever before..." enter credit card info. So they finally listened to me and went 100% exclusive and gave that non-exclusive away for free as a tube site called "Porn hub" ever heard of it? They are kind of a big deal.

1. Use non-exclusive & semi-exclusive content as a foundation (bonus) to keep the surfer from leaving imediately upon paying.

2. Shoot 12-60 (or more if you can afford it) exclusive sets and update as often as possible. Start with solo masturbation and mix in a little girl/girl & boy/girl for spice.

3. Get that shit live and making money you're going to need it to buy & update with exclusive content every week.

4. Contact every review site and ask for them to review your site. This will take a while as they are backlogged for up to 3 months depending upon thier size & popularity.

5. Play the traffic game like everyone else and pray you make your money back. And take the initiative every single day to get more traffic & content. This is not "Field of dreams" it's a fuckin sharkfight and the babe niche is the hardest (but most rewarding) to do.

Good luck!

Oh, and hit me up to shoot exclusive content with never-before seen amateurs @ [email protected]
Thanks Peter - have saved your email when/if I am able to start shooting exclusively.

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Originally Posted by bm bradley View Post
create a site that other people will buy a membership for. one of the biggest issues with webmasters is not appealing to a broad enough market, except in small fetish niches.

I see this all the time at GFY "that chick is a pig", when in fact I know "that chick converts and retains".

another isssue I see a lot of is bad design layouts BECAUSE a 'programer' thinks it's cool.

hit me with an email I'll tell you something very interesting. sell at bmbhome dot com
Shot you an email.

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody View Post
The truth in this thread is this:

HOW you present your content (exclusive or not) so that it converts with traffic you "understand" how to market to equals sales. Exclusive/non-exclusive doesn't matter as much as understanding your traffic and how to sell to that traffic.

Marketing is King, Traffic is Queen
Another man I was hoping would add to this thread - have enjoyed reading your successes and have started seriously thinking about creating this site after reading a few of your threads.

With re to converting - whilst i'm no expert, I have been experimenting with a few different concepts on my affiliate sites with re to gallery / layout / etc and it has worked very well. The design for the paysite is based on less is more with design. Time will tell how it works though.

Thanks for the input MisterPeabody!
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