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Old 12-10-2011, 03:52 PM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by mafia_man View Post
Read "Homage to Catalonia" by George Orwell if you want to know a society were non-hierarchical socialism worked.
No can you give me an actual place where it has worked. A book is theory. Unless Wikipedia has it wrong.

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Catalonia is an autonomous community in northeastern Spain, with the official status of a "nationality" of Spain.[1] Catalonia comprises four provinces: Barcelona, Girona, Lleida, and Tarragona. Its capital and largest city is Barcelona. Catalonia covers an area of 32,114 kmē and has an official population of 7,535,251.[2] Its borders essentially reflect those of the former Principality of Catalonia. It borders France and Andorra to the north, Aragon to the west, the Valencian Community to the south, and the Mediterranean Sea to the east (580 km coastline). The official languages are Catalan, Spanish and Aranese (Occitan).[3]

The name Catalunya (Catalonia) began to be used in the late 11th century[4] in reference to the group of counties that comprised the Marca Hispanica. The origin of the term is subject to diverse interpretations. A theory suggests that Catalunya derives from the term "Land of Castles",[5] having evolved from the term castlā, the ruler of a castle (see castellan).[6] This theory therefore suggests that the name Castile and Catalonia have the same etymology.

Another theory suggests that Catalunya (Latin Gathia Launia) derives from the name Gothia (or Gauthia), "Land of the Goths", since the Spanish March was first known as Gothia, whence Gothland > Gothlandia > Gothalania > Catalonia theoretically derived.[7][8]

Yet another less accepted theory points to the Lacetani, an Iberian tribe that lived in the area and whose name, due to the Roman influence, could have evolved by metathesis to Katelans and then Catalans.[9][10]
Seems it's a part of Spain. Need an actual country that has adopted the ethics you put forward, so we can copy it and make out lives better.
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