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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
No $5 is for a whole months membership to a big paysite or individual scenes ate 20 cents.
To do this and make it work, you'll have to run a paysite or get out of adult. The first thing that will be cut. Is what you sell. Traffic.
My dinosaur ass though of $5 paysites 4-5 years ago.
Agreed, this is the problem with adult. All the dinosaurs who still stick to the same price we had 12 years ago so they can pay for the traffic. Agree with you 100% on this. cut out the most expensive parts of online adult and slash the prices to the bone.
Where will you sell traffic?
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What you have never understood is that people like me can make money with anything online and a lot of us can do that offline as well. Traffic is inherently valuable regardless of what happens to the porn industry. You think people won't buy it direct even if they shut down their affiliate programs? I get offers all the damn time as it is. Basically, what happens to this industry will not affect me in any way except that I'll find something else to do. As someone dealing with traffic generation for 10 years I am already used to the constantly changing landscape, at times we've had to adjust on a month to month basis. How much real adjusting has the average paysite done in those same 10 years? I am fully capable of rolling with things while many here are not.
You keep on about $5 per month membership sites, why? He sold one video for $5. If I want to shoot a 1 hour scene and sell it for $5 I can, I don't have to get a damn recurring fee. Making a good product is sort of magical in that customers will pay you then willingly come back and buy more from you later if you don't fuck them. Most don't care about this. Take cross sales for instance, why the fuck would you risk pissing off your customer for an extra one time payment? Even if it were opt in only why the fuck would you send your rebilling customer to another program that is probably going to send that same customer to another site and on and on? It's shortsighted and stupid.
And you keep talking about slashing prices. Many here would love to see $5 for each one of their movies, absolutely love it. They don't try it because they are scared, nothing more. It's not even like they'd have to get rid of their paysites to get some new payment methods in. "Buy this video for $4.99 or see all of our videos for only $29.95 per month!"
I know that one is so far out of the box that most won't understand it but a few will catch on one day.
In the end, adult is such a minuscule drop in the fucking bucket in the online world. Every single one of the monetization methods that you are bitching about have been tested and tweaked to perfection in mainstream. There are sites that sell your data, sites that are free but sell ads, sites that charge per episode / clip / download / file / whatever and sites that have subscriptions ranging from $1 per month to thousands per month. Watching you talk about how this, that and the other won't work is extra hilarious when I know God damned well that each of them have been working on a huge scale for years and years on sites that are not adult.
Content production costs for porn are negligible as well. Sure $100,000 is a lot of money, but not in mainstream where tens of millions are spent to provide customers with a product that they are happy to pay for. Billions are made while you argue about how to make more pennies by doing things in the same way they've been done forever.