Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

It just depends. If you run a site like the one being lambasted against in this thread (pornrip.org) and you get a fair enough amount of traffic, $3-5k a month.
People that post on sites like warez-bb on a regular basis or the offhand piracy blogs like tactools can make $1-3k a month because they get steady traffic and they schedule updates every 30 minutes or so. People can sub to RSS feeds and see if there is anything they like.
Just throwing up some scenes on one of the more popular porn/warez sites you can make nice weekend money. This has been reported on ZDnet and the article was referenced on here.

If you want to cut out the filehosts, you need to make it some how illegal for them to get money for files or at least cut off incentives to say things like: (post cool things and have your friends download them and get $30 for every 1000 downloads).
Filehosts have become very competitive, there are over 1000 but only 10-20 mainstream ones that are now household names.

There is a whole art to piracy and there are forums dedicated to what are called "uploaders."

If you want a forum where these guys hang out so you can lurk and learn how they work you are welcome to email me at my gmail account.

johnnyloadproductions

Best bet is you need to start doing things that really engage your customer. Hell, when I was shooting I loved talking to customers, blogging, and getting real intimate with my customer base and doing special requests.

It's just like any kind of evolution, there is a lax period where a lot of you on here (who got in fairly early) made a shit load of money and are established. Now a shit period has come in and some of the weaker guys are going to die out.

I'm just speculating but companies like manwin probably don't care about piracy too much or might even promote it, why? Because they have a longterm goal and the fact piracy is choking off everyone and making profit margin nil is making many of you rethink your pursuits either throwing up your hands in resignation or selling out by selling your assets off. Which in the end makes them a huge winner. Clips4sale will always be around but that's not worth there time.

If you are going to campaign against piracy, you small to mid level producers are going to have to form your own coalition and do your own form of an anonymous attack that humilates the billing company in regards to what they are doing. Many of you are smart on here, somebody needs to take action like Mike South did for ************* except for piracy. This has snuck up much slower and is not as flagrant as the posting of peoples' personal ID but it's effecting you just as much.