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dj_sniffy · 06-11-2003, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by XYCash

Saying you will do something and legally stipulating it in a contract are two different things.

sniffy doesn't contract with webmasters. there is no agreement by the webmaster that we need to sign. afterall, why would a webmaster who knows he has CP, allow sniffy in by first signing a contract that says he knows we are doing it.

to have a contract with each and every webmaster is a huge logistical nightmare. why do we need to ask permission to visit your site, when you don't already do so for regular surfers?

membership sites restrict outsiders by entering through the member doors. what you open up to the outside world, to the free viewing of the surfers, is fair game....

i think it would be great to have the support of all webmasters for sniffy. we aren't heare to ask permission, if so, then we would only get a handful.. there is a vast amount of adult sites out there, far beyond what is represented in this forum.

we are here to understand concerns and issues, so that we can be good neighbors. if i wanted to blast my guitar everyday, i have that right, but i wouldn't be a good neighbor. if you came over and talked about it, and i respected your points, i would try to lower the volume, or play when you are not around, but that doesn't mean i stop playing. i can't go around to every house in the neighborhood and ask permission and have a signed document about when i will play and when i won't, or what kinds of songs i can play.

Breaking News 1: Sniffy wins the hearts and minds of every adult webmaster on the internet with it's fabulous goal of eliminating CP forever. By indexing and categorizing every adult website on the internet Sniffy has the ability to track down illegal CP everywhere it's posted taking a huge burden off of adult webmasters everywhere who found it impossible to manually track down these offensive sites.

great PR statement, can we use that?? *grin*

Breaking News 2: Sniffy wins huge federal contract to help the Justice Department rid the internet of obscene images. Sniffy, a break through software used to combat CP on the internet now opens it's database to the federal goverment in the war on porn. With this lucrative contract and it's huge database of adult sites, sniffy will be able to categorize and identify obscene images making the federal prosecutions for obscenity a breeze.

next PR statement would be, Lee Noga, shunned and banned from the adult industry for biting the hand that feeds her.

for your scenario above, why are you protecting and condoning webmasters that don't have their proper forms in place for their content? if a webmaster is using illegal images and underage models, shouldn't they be targetted by the feds????

(i realize that you don't condone their actions).

for those like yourself that have done everything to comply with FEDERAL laws, you have nothing to fear. So if the feds sniff you, whether using sniffy or their own tools, you have nothing to worry about, besides the paranoia issue of being sniffed by the feds (and i don't dismiss that it is something to worry about... can we say Waco?)

Those that are doing wrong, will be both paranoid and fearful of governement action.

will we sell out to the Feds? no.

first of all, they aren't in the business of acquiring businesses for their purposes (Microsoft does that). if they wanted our data, they could take out data. Homeland Security and federal laws see to that.

I think you need to build in protection for adult webmasters against this ever happening before you will get full backing.

i think that webmasters need to build their own protection and be compliant with federal laws. resource boards and support from the industry and fellow peers, should help each other to do what is the law. until the laws change, that's the way it is.

if you are doing something illegal, then you may get caught. what difference is it if it is sniffy or a script kiddie's program that does the catching. illegal is illegal, there is no gray area.

I think what you are asking is, are we going to sell-out or give the fbi our data (?)

No.

could they make us give them our data for free?

yes.

will we like that?

no

should we just go home now and put sniffy in the pound because we are fearful of the feds?

no

am i rambling too much in my posts?

maybe

-dj

06-11-2003, 08:38 AM
dj_sniffy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 47	Originally posted by XYCash Saying you will do something and legally stipulating it in a contract are two different things. sniffy doesn't contract with webmasters. there is no agreement by the webmaster that we need to sign. afterall, why would a webmaster who knows he has CP, allow sniffy in by first signing a contract that says he knows we are doing it. to have a contract with each and every webmaster is a huge logistical nightmare. why do we need to ask permission to visit your site, when you don't already do so for regular surfers? membership sites restrict outsiders by entering through the member doors. what you open up to the outside world, to the free viewing of the surfers, is fair game.... i think it would be great to have the support of all webmasters for sniffy. we aren't heare to ask permission, if so, then we would only get a handful.. there is a vast amount of adult sites out there, far beyond what is represented in this forum. we are here to understand concerns and issues, so that we can be good neighbors. if i wanted to blast my guitar everyday, i have that right, but i wouldn't be a good neighbor. if you came over and talked about it, and i respected your points, i would try to lower the volume, or play when you are not around, but that doesn't mean i stop playing. i can't go around to every house in the neighborhood and ask permission and have a signed document about when i will play and when i won't, or what kinds of songs i can play. Breaking News 1: Sniffy wins the hearts and minds of every adult webmaster on the internet with it's fabulous goal of eliminating CP forever. By indexing and categorizing every adult website on the internet Sniffy has the ability to track down illegal CP everywhere it's posted taking a huge burden off of adult webmasters everywhere who found it impossible to manually track down these offensive sites. great PR statement, can we use that?? grin Breaking News 2: Sniffy wins huge federal contract to help the Justice Department rid the internet of obscene images. Sniffy, a break through software used to combat CP on the internet now opens it's database to the federal goverment in the war on porn. With this lucrative contract and it's huge database of adult sites, sniffy will be able to categorize and identify obscene images making the federal prosecutions for obscenity a breeze. next PR statement would be, Lee Noga, shunned and banned from the adult industry for biting the hand that feeds her. for your scenario above, why are you protecting and condoning webmasters that don't have their proper forms in place for their content? if a webmaster is using illegal images and underage models, shouldn't they be targetted by the feds???? (i realize that you don't condone their actions). for those like yourself that have done everything to comply with FEDERAL laws, you have nothing to fear. So if the feds sniff you, whether using sniffy or their own tools, you have nothing to worry about, besides the paranoia issue of being sniffed by the feds (and i don't dismiss that it is something to worry about... can we say Waco?) Those that are doing wrong, will be both paranoid and fearful of governement action. will we sell out to the Feds? no. first of all, they aren't in the business of acquiring businesses for their purposes (Microsoft does that). if they wanted our data, they could take out data. Homeland Security and federal laws see to that. I think you need to build in protection for adult webmasters against this ever happening before you will get full backing. i think that webmasters need to build their own protection and be compliant with federal laws. resource boards and support from the industry and fellow peers, should help each other to do what is the law. until the laws change, that's the way it is. if you are doing something illegal, then you may get caught. what difference is it if it is sniffy or a script kiddie's program that does the catching. illegal is illegal, there is no gray area. I think what you are asking is, are we going to sell-out or give the fbi our data (?) No. could they make us give them our data for free? yes. will we like that? no should we just go home now and put sniffy in the pound because we are fearful of the feds? no am i rambling too much in my posts? maybe -dj __________________ i can type, but i can't spel.