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Old 12-30-2011, 06:15 AM  
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Originally Posted by DamianJ View Post
No, of course. You don't NEED to. But just saying LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU isn't a very interesting counterpoint. Makes it look like you are unable to argue effectively against that point.



You're not. In a rebuttal you need to make a counterpoint. Not just say "I don't care".



Oh gosh you make this hard. I didn't say they operate a similar system. I said they censor the internet. It's a totally different method of doing it.



Please don't say what I don't know. China has the most piracy of any country ever. This is well documented. Sorry you are unaware of it. But your ignorance doesn't mean it doesn't exist. They pirate fucking whole apple stores ffs. :D





I said there is no technical solution to piracy. There isn't. History has proven this. As soon as something is 1s and 0s you can pirate it. At home. On a 200 buck device. Rather than name calling, make a counterpoint.



No I'm not. Of course they should legislate.

Quote what I say, make a counterpoint.

Sigh.

I did not say I dont care what your chosen experts say. Did I ?

I said YOU are making misleading claims that the internet will be "broken" by this legislation.

Can you understand my point ? This is the third time I have made it and I am getting tired of trying to explain it to you. So my rebuttal regarding YOUR broken internet point is that your claims are wild and fanciful using dramatic language to further your argument.

With regards to China, yes they have priated entire Apple stores, but that tells me absolutely nothing about what effect their laws have had on piracy ON THE INTERNET in China. It may have increased, it may have reduced since the introduction of their censorship regulations. No one knows because the Chinese will never allow that type of information to be released. Thats not me telling you what you do or dont know - I am just pointing out the the inadequacies of your argument.

Lets be clear here Damian you brought up China as an example of how they have instigated similar legislation "Look, China already has THIS censorship" you cheerfully claimed. You used China as an example of why SOPA wont "work". So have your changed your mind ? Or are you now agreeing that comparisons with SOPA and the Chinese legistlation is really rather silly ?

With regards to history proving there is no solution to piracy. Jesus. Technological innovation is not about history. It is about the present and the future. Invention and human advancement is relentless. It will not stop because you want it to.

Should governments give up on changing their banknotes just because eventually the forgers will one day learn how to recreate a reasonable copy ?, and should the laws which put the forgers in prison be rescinded because they do not "work" ?

Give it up Damian, your arguments are preposterus. The free ride for thieves might not be eradicated by this legislation. But you have not offered a reasoned argument as to why you think that is. Jumping up and down shouting "it will not work" is not a detailed and reasoned critique of actual text of the act. (sigh)
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