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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn
Using your number, 44% of torrent traffic is downloading content other than tv shows- mostly commercially released music, movies, games, software and apps that they clearly didn't, and would prefer not to have to pay for.
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1. so now your trying to argue that no movie ever airs on tv ever
remember all those movies would also be covered by timeshifting
2. of course all the other fair uses like backup/recovery format shifting don't exist in your made up (pull your numbers out of your ass ) arguement
3. your ignoring all the autorized distribution on torrents which includes countries that have extended fair use because of a piracy tax (like canada and 26 other nations).
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Of the 56% of torrent traffic downloading tv shows, 55% of them either don't actually pay for cable or satellite tv at home- as you know there are many people nowadays bragging that they "cut the cord"; or they do pay for some form of basic cable but not for the specific channels the shows they are downloading were broadcast on; or they are college kids on campus who neither have paid for cable nor even have a television in their room for that matter;
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seriously your pulling numbers out of your ass again
37% of all torrent traffic is tv shows that are broadcst on the free air ways.
that doesn't include the extended channel range of basic cable.
More than 60% of Americans subscribe to cable television. Sixty-one percent of the U.S. population age 12+ subscribe to basic cable television service at home.
given those facts (not numbers pulled out of your ass) even if 100% was the maximum you would get to is 9.6% torrent traffic is what your talking about.
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or they are downloading shows that were not even broadcast in their country in the first place; or they are downloading compilations of tv shows containing episodes that never aired on tv in the first place. None of which would be covered under your catch-all excuse.
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nope never said it was
however the fair use of access shifting does cover it
and many countries have established the fact that 1 download != 1 lost sale (first step)
if the item was never for sale (not available in that country) then there is no sale to lose and ergo there is no infringement.
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I get the idea of the theoretical convenience and practicality of a limitless worldwide accessible DVR that records everything for all time that anyone can access. If there was way to make it work for both end users and content creators it might be a great thing. Maybe in the near or medium term future the industry will figure it out. But as it stands now it's a literal free-for-all. Not even the advertising supporting the tv shows in the first place survives the editing and encoding process of the self-entitled end users.
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seriously mother fucker go back and read the testimony of jack valenti when the mpaa tried to get the supreme court ruling reversed by congress
http://cryptome.org/hrcw-hear.htm
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But you don't need that now as long as you have this. Indeed, when my son is taping for his permanent collection, he sits there and pauses his machine and when he is finished with it, he has a marvelous Clint Eastwood movie and there is no sign of a commercial. It is a brand new movie and he can put three of those on one 6-hour tape.
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timeshifting gave me the right to have a permanent collection of tv shows
and gave me the right to skip all the commercials
That why none of the tv commercials on pvr count toward neilson ratings. No advertiser paid a single penny for timeshifted tv shows since the vcr first came out.
stop trying to take away rights i already have.