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dj_sniffy · 06-11-2003, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by stevent37

Your logic for this entire thread has been flawed from begining to end. First and foremost you seem to think that invoking the name of ASACP is some great shield. ASCAP has lost several lawsuites in their zeal to track down and prosocute child porn. ASACP is NOT an authorized policing authority and NOT part of the government.

ASCAP does not have the authority to shut down websites. They can send letters and persuade ISP's to investigate the matter, but their best tool is to work with the FBI in handing over the evidence the collected (ie. documentation of the CP, background info on the company, etc).

The FBI then investigates (they have a department dedicated to stuff like this) and handles it from then on.

I think that you are not understanding the problem that sniffy is proposing, otherwise, you would be focusing on the possible issue, that sponsor;s don't care or need to care if their affiliates are generating traffic through CP or CP-like activities. that's the real issue, i think that you missed it thinking our premise was based on ASACP's existance.

You keep po poing the idea that your database could be used to hurt honest webmasters, disregarding the fact that a lot of what is main stream promoted is indeed illegal in a lot of places in the U.S. .

you must not be reading the posts. I infact detailed exactly how the FBI could use our database to find "obscene" material. I have acknowledged that our database could be used by the Feds, against the webmasters.

i have stated that it is not our intention to give free access to the feds, unless we are court ordered.

Big Brother is watching is scary enough. Big brother gets paid Big bucks to squeel is terrifying to say the least.

so your objection to sniffy is that it could potentially be used to detect webmasters who are conducting themselves in an illegal activity?

why are you protecting the guilty? FreeAdultContent's assertion that sniffy could be used to frame a webmaster is baseless. Hearsay and conjecture is what gets webmasters framed, based upon their peer's own pettiness, greedy, or stupidity.

if a private detective takes a picture of you banging another women that is not your wife, and your wife files for divorce, you guys are saying that you would sue the detective?

maybe you were just helping out a naked women in changing her lightbulb above her bed, and you fell on top of her, and just at that moment the detective took the picture.

that could very well be true, but your wife would have to examine the evidence in context for herself.

-dj

06-11-2003, 03:08 PM
dj_sniffy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 47	Originally posted by stevent37 Your logic for this entire thread has been flawed from begining to end. First and foremost you seem to think that invoking the name of ASACP is some great shield. ASCAP has lost several lawsuites in their zeal to track down and prosocute child porn. ASACP is NOT an authorized policing authority and NOT part of the government. ASCAP does not have the authority to shut down websites. They can send letters and persuade ISP's to investigate the matter, but their best tool is to work with the FBI in handing over the evidence the collected (ie. documentation of the CP, background info on the company, etc). The FBI then investigates (they have a department dedicated to stuff like this) and handles it from then on. I think that you are not understanding the problem that sniffy is proposing, otherwise, you would be focusing on the possible issue, that sponsor;s don't care or need to care if their affiliates are generating traffic through CP or CP-like activities. that's the real issue, i think that you missed it thinking our premise was based on ASACP's existance. You keep po poing the idea that your database could be used to hurt honest webmasters, disregarding the fact that a lot of what is main stream promoted is indeed illegal in a lot of places in the U.S. . you must not be reading the posts. I infact detailed exactly how the FBI could use our database to find "obscene" material. I have acknowledged that our database could be used by the Feds, against the webmasters. i have stated that it is not our intention to give free access to the feds, unless we are court ordered. Big Brother is watching is scary enough. Big brother gets paid Big bucks to squeel is terrifying to say the least. so your objection to sniffy is that it could potentially be used to detect webmasters who are conducting themselves in an illegal activity? why are you protecting the guilty? FreeAdultContent's assertion that sniffy could be used to frame a webmaster is baseless. Hearsay and conjecture is what gets webmasters framed, based upon their peer's own pettiness, greedy, or stupidity. if a private detective takes a picture of you banging another women that is not your wife, and your wife files for divorce, you guys are saying that you would sue the detective? maybe you were just helping out a naked women in changing her lightbulb above her bed, and you fell on top of her, and just at that moment the detective took the picture. that could very well be true, but your wife would have to examine the evidence in context for herself. -dj __________________ i can type, but i can't spel.