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Originally Posted by borked
In "your day" what did you count, if anything but the cash? I know stats weren't as advanced back then but still, hits to view a picture gal were relatively high and the clickthru rate to the paysite was what, 1 in a few hundred? I'm talking now *before* vids hit the scene....
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Actually a very good point. When I was selling Astral Blue videos, the way to get new customers was to advertise in men's magazines. This wasn't expensive if you got it right. So I soon learned that if a magazine boasted a 100k circulation it charged accordingly, usually $800. The advert would bring 100 replies spending $800 and these would carry on buying between 1-2 to all the catalogue. At $40 a tape. So they bought the magazine, then bought the sample, then bought again and again.
This pales in comparison to what the sex lines were getting in return for their advertising and why many of the magazine owners were running their own ads. David Sullivan, David Gold and Richard Desmond filled the ad pages in their own magazines with their own sex line adverts. Sullivan had a National newspaper with pages of his own adverts. That's where they made the big money to get them able to invest outside porn. Google them.
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Then TGPs came along, and everyone was calling chicken little.... for just cause. For everyone jacking off for free to a few pics, there came an explosion off tgps showing what they wanted for free. What was the name of that Aussie guy who did the great TGP script? I forget... anyway, hosted TGPs took care off that. And if not...
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I have no dispute the the fact the Internet changed the game 180 degrees. That this is now the only game in town and people are stuck with the choice of playing this game or get off the pitch. I'm sure a few have made really good money. Like Roald. The majority haven't and work from home as one man bands. This is what content providers get to see. We don't get the BS that is given to affiliates.
I dispute the continual ass kissing and claiming very bad is good. The best that can be done today? Without a doubt, spot on 100% correct, but that doesn't make it good.
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Then MGPs came along and put told to the TGPs and... bandwidth was pretty expensive at the time (2004'ish?), so not an explosion in MGPs, but it made profit for those that adapted to it.
Et alors, today, it's the tube's spotlight.....
lather, rinse, repeat.
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And the spiral goes down.
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What pimproll has done is the nail in the coffin for home-hosted tubes and the dawn of the new era.
That's how I see it. Whether or not you do, I don't really care.
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I see it to. Just like to tell people that bad isn't good. What Pimproll have done is put another nail in the coffin of selling porn. Still a few nails to go, but it takes time.
If they hadn't done it, someone else would of. Now they have done it, who's planning to do it next. Do you think no one will copy them? That puts a nail in your coffin of 3 minute clips. Eventually most recorded porn will be given away to sell the little parts left that can't be given away, until they are given away. Then who knows.
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You seem to be on a one-man-soapbox crusade to rid the internet of non-payed-for porn. It won't happen bud!!! Not even if all the heads of state stood up behind you.
In any case, carry on ranting, as it is quite amusing 
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It's a nice fantasy and if it did happen you guys would see the power that porn used to have.
Amusing, what makes you think I amuse people? I see a lot of annoyance.
This is the only game left, play it or get off the field and watch. Just don't play it and claim bad is good.