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Old 01-15-2012, 07:25 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Panky View Post
Paul, why don't you just try an experiment and see what works best for you? Take one unused domain and place some ad on it or some type of sales gimmick. Then take another unused domain on it and plug it into the PR tube system. Throw some traffic to both domains and see what your results are in 1 month, 3 months, and 6 months.

You've spent time in this thread asking questions, calculating other users results, and debating issues based on theory. Your theory and how you perceive tubes and this particular product. Yet, you haven't tested anything to see whether your line of thinking, your theory, holds any merit.

Your arguments would carry much more weight if you could say, "This is what I did. This is what my results were at the 1 month mark, the 3 month mark, and the 6 month mark. This is my conclusion based on my own results."

It's basically put up or shut up. It's like you are talking just to hear yourself talk. Or that you're trying hard to convince yourself, and others, that your views on free porn, tubes, and the issues with converting a surfer to a buyer are correct and everyone else is just supposed to take your word for it. It just simply doesn't work that way. You're just trying way to hard to be heard and be taken seriously.
I will start out by apologising. Because you clearly didn't get my message. I'm not saying I can do better. I'm taking the stats of my betters at driving traffic and using them as a guide to what I and some others think are really crap ratios.

If that's the norm for a Tube site today, then the whole business is IN MY OPINION not doing very well or you guys and I have a different opinion of what's good. Today or any time. This is what I posted last time. Not updating it unless completely different stats start coming in.

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12,902 Raw
2,774 join page
8 sales.

That's
1-346.75 converting from the join page. Is this normal for Tube traffic?
1-1612.75 from the tour.
1-4.65 of tour hits going to the join page, now that's a very high ratio so check it for me please.

250,000 uniques, converts to 12,902 tour hits. 1-19.37 click a banner.
Are these stats normal. How much work will it take to improve them and as I remember this was 8-9 people in the initial weeks or month of opening the Tube. 8 sales x $30 = $30 for each one. How normal is this?

Roald has got a sale.

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Originally Posted by Roald View Post
We did 1 sale

Putting things back now as I rather do no work and grow traffic on it then spent more time on it and create revenue.
Doesn't make complete sense. Are you carrying on or using te traffic in another way?
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