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Originally Posted by Failed
Epass said the money was in motion too. But let's say they make an attempt to pay back the money to affiliates, you honestly believe not one dollar will be stolen? You think they've kept track of affiliate referrals and rev shares since they closed shop, will continue the recurring subs now that they posted a thread about paying back?
If I go into a store a take a tv, but give it back in 3 months, do you think the cops will say, "it's cool bro, you brought it back." If I rip your site and post all the videos online for 3 months, will you be cool if I come back and say sorry afterwards?
Come on man, this was flat out theft, they will never give back every dollar owed, we both know it.
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Dudester Bro-diddley...
As long as I have been in biz I have had plenty of no-pays, late-pays, delays, way-laids, and checks in the mail promises... If someone tells me they intend to pay then I give them the benefit of the doubt first. So your analogy is not even accurate or informative; it is just sophistry to try and make your point but it is baseless and misleading. If they say they will pay then what is the harm in giving them the benefit of the doubt?
Give you an example, just so you understand that without having all the facts, you shouldn't accuse them of stealing based on assumptions.
We once had a vendor that was half our total income literally close shop overnight, take all the money, the lists, data, etc. and move to a desert island. Now that was an event that we had zero control over which instantly cash strapped us, but the worse problem was that part of what we should have been paid was also owed to other producers like Dave Cummings.
Now we knew we would never recover a dime, but Dave still expected to be paid. Due to the circumstances we delayed payment, Dave was not happy, but we eventually rebounded and paid him. Were we stealing from him? Never. Was he paid. Yes. Did it take a while to make good and was it a messy pain in the ass to deal with? Yes and yes. Did Dave think we were stealing from him? Probably. Did he realize in the end that we were not. YES.
Don't assume anything. And if someone says sorry and I will pay then what should be asking is "when and how" not saying pretty much only "fuck you". What good is that going to do?
And yes, I do believe it is possible to accurately pay back every penny with a proper audit of their transactions.