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Old 01-22-2012, 01:05 PM  
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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 View Post
What they did before they were bought by Manwin is not important. I am not 100% in tune with what Manwin is doing to clean them up but if you expect them to do more than the law provides you are asking for too much. You can't do more than the law provides while operating a site like that or you put yourself in danger. Responding correctly to DMCA's is all they can really do without opening up a can of worms. Of course you'll say that they could use their own content but that would defeat the purpose of owning a tube site in the first place which right now is a legitimate and legal business model whether we like it or not.
Manwin supposedly stopped in-house uploaders. But did they really? Do you really think all of those videos, unwatermarked, are really being uploaded every day? Maybe. It would be just easy to have Indians, Filipinos or others upload for them for pennies per upload, and they could make it untraceable. Who knows. But I don't personally believe they stopped in-house uploading and all of those videos are being uploaded by random guys for free.

And isn't it odd the largest uploaders always have "glitches" with when they joined vs how many videos they have uploaded, making it so they would have to upload 24 hours a day for months on end?

Some other tubes now give content owners limited admin access to delete their videos. If small companies can successfully do this, why can't the largest ones? Those who have taken this extra step ARE working with us and not simply feeding us full of shit and telling us it's pizza. Simply replying to a DMCA is all they are required to do, but Manwin could do much more, but they don't. And there is a reason for that.

I also don't get the part about them cleaning up their sites. How? Wouldn't that violate DMCA law to start removing content without DMCA notices? According to Fabian it would. So what are they doing, responding to DMCA notices like they are suppose to do? I don't really see that as cleaning up anything.

Anyway, you are right. They work within the law, as far as we know, and because of that there is nothing we can do other than praise them and blow them for traffic. So that's that. It is what it is and nothing will change that.
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