Originally Posted by harvey

I've done some extreme customizations for VB. As a matter of fact, I just finished one a couple weeks ago to make it look like something extremely different. However, like I said to my client, VB is BY FAR the worse if you're looking for aesthetic purposes, and you can only get it modded to some extent. There's a reason why if you do a search for "best VB designs" you'll see most lists don't include any VBulletin site. VBull strength is its backend, everything else is meant to be dull and V4 strengthened that route, killing most of the customization possibilities you had with V3

so if looks is what you're looking for, better go with something else. If you're looking for the classic header/tables (TABLES!!!!)/footer, then VB should be enough (always speaking about visual aspect, no doubt it's a very good product)