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Originally Posted by Cherry7
Less time writing about what you don't know about here and more reading would do you a lot of good.
You have never read any Marx. Marx lived in poverty most of his life.
The communist countries played by different rules....
They aimed to feed, clothe and house everybody. They gave everybody access to health care and schools. I provided jobs for everyone. These societies were some of the poorest and least developed but if you compare them to equivalent capitalist countries you can see better.
Compare Communist Cuba with Dominican Republic or Haiti
Communist Poland with Brazil
Capitalism is only interested in people with money. If you have no money you are free to die.
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Karl Heinrich Marx (5 May 1818 ? 14 March 1883) was a German philosopher, economist, sociologist, historian, journalist, and revolutionary socialist. His ideas played a significant role in the development of social science and the socialist political movement. He published various books during his lifetime, with the most notable being The Communist Manifesto (1848) and Capital (1867?1894); some of his works were co-written with his friend, the fellow German revolutionary socialist Friedrich Engels.[3]
Born into a wealthy middle class family in Trier, formerly in Prussian Rhineland now called Rhineland-Palatinate, Marx studied at both the University of Bonn and the University of Berlin, where he became interested in the philosophical ideas of the Young Hegelians. In 1836, he became engaged to Jenny von Westphalen, marrying her in 1843. After his studies, he wrote for a radical newspaper in Cologne, and began to work out his theory of dialectical materialism. Moving to Paris in 1843, he began writing for other radical newspapers. He met Engels in Paris, and the two men worked together on a series of books. Exiled to Brussels, he became a leading figure of the Communist League, before moving back to Cologne, where he founded his own newspaper. In 1849 he was exiled again and moved to London together with his wife and children. In London, where the family was reduced to poverty, Marx continued writing and formulating his theories about the nature of society and how he believed it could be improved, as well as campaigning for socialism and becoming a significant figure in the International Workingmen's Association.
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It seems he chose poverty. He got kicked out of places that didn't like his message. Then his downward spiral started. Are you saying he should of been kept by the system he was trying to change?
Yes the rules the Communist Countries played by, had to be backed up by tanks. So you think people not having the right to vote, to protest, to complain against the Government is right?
The health care here during Communism was sure free, not much good. But it was free. Same with the schools. As for jobs, yes if you wanted to get a wage that was barely enough to feed your family on.
Since Capitalism took over in Czech living standards, wages and life have improved out of all expectations of people 30 years ago. While they were ruled by Communists backed up by tanks. The communist system kept these countries poor. They weren't before WW2. they became poor under Communism.
Compare Cuba with it's neighbor Florida.
Brazil has one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
Capitalism isn't perfect. It has a lot of flaws. Communism has more, because true Communism cant exist. It needs people at the top and they will run it as they think it should be run. Which usually means them ending up in a mansion and getting fat, while the workers get the scrapes.
Don't compare broken countries with broken countries that without the money coming from the rich ones would be in a worse state. figure out why a few people at the top drive big cars and have huge mansions and the rest walk and live in huts. It's the same problem, the people at the top look after themselves first. You dislike fat cat businessmen, yet accept fat cat Communists.