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Originally Posted by Cherry7
Do you remember what you write?
You said K Marx was rich, I pointed out to you the fact that he was poor, you go off on his parents, what his opinions were....
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He was rich and came from a rich middle class family which allowed him the benefits of his standing in society and his education. He lost it all because of his views.
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All State power is backed up by force, the police and then the tanks...
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Yes but the Communist ones seem more likely to use them and shoot people.
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What do you know about health care during Communist times ? Where is your evidence?
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I live in a country ruined by communism, was treated in hospitals built under communism, you live and get health care where?
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Cuba health care gets better results than USA.
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And the US has a better life expectancy than N. Korea. so your point is?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy Go find a communist country in the top 30. In fact over all it shows in communist countries people have a pretty poor life expectancy.
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Poland / Brazil when Poland was communist. Poland would be the country to live in, free education, health care, full employment and housing ... Brazil children eating out of the garbage.
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In Czech where I can talk of from experience people lined up for bananas once a year at Xmas, for bread all the time. If they saw a van pull up outside a shop, they stopped work and got in the line, without knowing what was being delivered. So what has made Poland a better place to live in today than under the Communists, backed by tanks on the street?
The number of factories that have gone there and opened up. Factories run by Capitalists. Same goes for Hungary and Czech. If Poland and Eastern Europe was such a great place to live Explain this.
Iron Curtain.
Berlin Wall
People were willing to risk death to get out.
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NY Times about Czech...
Analysts say the Communist Party is benefiting from a regionwide disappointment over the failure of liberal parties to live up to the promises of 1989
Yes under communism I queued for bananas under capitalism I queued for a job
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And the Czechs and you have the opportunity to change the Government. Or even change the system. Yes a few old people who were in the party or benefited from the party are wishing it would all come back. The chances of the Communist getting re elected are about as high as you going to live in China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, Vietnam. Short list so shouldn't take you long to work out where to live.
The problem is under Capitalism you're a failure for some reason. Maybe because your Socialist Government spent more than the Capitalist could earn, so borrowed the country into debt. Maybe because all those with a job "the workers" won't take the living standards of the people of Poland under Communism. Do you think full employment is possible at $30,000 average a year. Maybe because the Capitalists don't want your sorry ass. Maybe because the system that kept you in a job, is the system you want to bring down. Maybe because they simply don't want an idiot infecting other workers with his stupid ideas, which was Marx problems.
Your problem is simple, delusion. In the real world not enough people will vote in a system where instead of earning $30,000 they will end up earning $10,000. don't nit pick the figures you know exactly what I mean. If you don't your a bigger moron than I thought.
And that's the problem. The vast majority of the workers reject your idiocy. If they didn't they wouldn't risk death on the high seas trying to get out of the places you admire.
Cuba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariel_boatlift
And they still risk their lives to get out of Cuba and away from your deluded dream.