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Originally Posted by kane
Under these circumstances if you choose to download it before the DVDs are available some people would make the argument that you are doing them no economic harm because it wasn't for sale so you aren't costing them a sale. I would disagree. If you download it you are a lot less likely to then buy the DVDs at a later date.
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just like your a lot less likely to watch the rerun of an episode if you pvr'ed
Again you haven't explained why this potential loss justifies calling it infringement in one case but not in the other.
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If many people download it could cause the interest in the DVD in that area to be much smaller than it otherwise would be. I am not saying one download would be one lost sale, but I am saying it it likely would lead to some lost sales and therefore cause economic harm.
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and reruns are syndicated for revenue too, so if enough people timeshifted with a vcr tv shows got cancelled
In fact that a prove fact
My Own worst enemy had rating as high as heros if you counted pvr'ed viewings
yet it got cancelled because the only ones the advertisers paid for were the live viewings.
Every fair use has cost the copyright holder money, that not the point
It if the money is from liciencing or from extending the monopoly to a medium.
If it the first the fair use is denied, if it the second it is allowed
timeshifting was about choosing reruns over betamax
formatshifting was about choosing cd over mp3
backup/recovery was about choosing buying a new original vs recording your own backup.
access shifting is again about choosing one medium over another canada vs US.