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Originally Posted by crucifissio
gideongallery...
do you know what I find amusing about you, except for your half knowledge of english and how the world works? This:
I used to live in the conditions you speak of. There was no copyright. You could copy the newest films, music, software and put up a card board box and sell it in front of a police station nobody would give a fuck. Your dream basically LOL.
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copyright law has existed since before america was a colony so that entire statement is bullshit and you know it.
you may have lived in a country where copyright law has not been enforced but there is no way you lived in a country where the copyright law didn't exist
That being said, that not what i am arguing for
I clearly said that if the content is provided for a medium and you take it without paying for it that was infringement.
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You once posted a thread "if you cant compete with free you cant compete period", being your usual half knowledge half educated self, you did not take in to account that authors are not traffic wizards and internet gurus so they can't really fight for traffic and "compete" with shit. The title of your thread should have been "If you can't compete with free you are not a traffic guru who can make $ inspite of thieves and free loading fucktards."
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and this proves how much of a moron you are
you don't understand the market at all
want proof look at wil Wheaton that guy admitted explicitly he was technologically clueless in his book just a geek.
Yet he released his blog post/speeches under CC-SA -NC
so what happened his fans from star trek were allowed to record and post his speeches on their youtube/twitter etc accounts
They did the work of getting him traffic, he just talked about shit.
he talked about gaming, and he got invited to gaming conventions to talk about games
he talked about poker and he got invited to play in major celebrity tournaments.
he talked about his favourite shows and he got invited to play an evil version of himself on that shows.
other people did all the "work" for him.
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No copyright = monopoly, end of story. This is a real life example not some second hand toilet paper Gideon theory.
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except your real world example is completely unverifiable while mine are all verifiable
wil wheaton
jonathan coulton
http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2012/01/21/megaupload/
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It happened in music, all the music stars were forced to sign humiliating contracts with the TV stations because this is all the money they could get, their shit was being sold free on the streets, concerts don't make enough money and they cost a lot.
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so artist got screwed because copyright didn't exist 200 years before they were born
that screw job your talking about happened when copyright was in it full effect.
and that why many artist are contemplating revoking their copyright assignment to get around that abuse.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...pyrights.shtml
and of course the record companies are trying their best to screw the artist out of that right.
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This happened in film, all the quality production went under right away because nobody went to the theaters because you could get the movie for pennies on the street...so all the new movies were super low budget super crap TV releases that could not be pirated simply because they had no value at all...
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again copyright law has existed since before america was even colonized
so everything your complaining about happened under copyright law
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This happened in literature, you could not sell a book because photocopies were cheaper, it was so ridiculous at one time you could buy jamie olivers cook book printed 4 pages in one to save paper LOL...nobody published books during this period....
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ditto
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This happened in medicine...no copyright means cheap knock offs...
This happened with food....ever tried millka chocholate with 2 L-s?
This happned with clothes...domestic brands were demolished by fake china crap...
But the most important effect is that it all lead to a complete devaluation of many profitable industries that employed 100.000s of people. It rewarded the rich and powerful media giants. For what? So that cheap shit guy fawkes mask wearing gideons could enjoy free porn in their mommas basement.
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reread what i said in the you can't compete with free thread
every single one of your examples has a viable competition method
in fact most actually do follow at least one of them
that why those markets have not collapsed, and in fact are profiting greatly.
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How amusing is it to me that you fight against monopoly LOL but you are in fact fighting for it.
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only if your a moron who doesn't know that copyright law has existed since before the country was even an idea.
Who is too stupid to realize that all the problems you attribute to a lack of copyright actually existed because of copyright.
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Can you imagine how amusing you are to me? You champion a cause that you can not even theoretically achieve with your solution. You are fighting cancer with tobacco LOL. You are monopolies best friend and you do not realize it at all...
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right says the guy so stupid that he didn't realize that releasing your content under CC-SA crowd sources all the traffic work for you.
Well if your that stupid of course your not going to see the solution.
If you make problems that don't even exist into insurmountable problems of course nothing is going to work.
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You redefine the meaning of the word loser. Go get some english lessons at least then people will think you invested some time in something instead of half assing your way through life....
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and you need to actually learn how to read a history book.