Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

thats really pigeon holing what a 'nice guy' could be..(not to mention makes him look like a retard for putting a restricted symbol next to every use of Nice Guy) i bet lots of guys used to treat women with respect blah blah until they see where it gets them..nowhere! sure the moron trying to be 'friends' with women as a way to get with them is dumb as shit but you can also be nice, be fully clear of your intentions but in the end she goes for some guy who is a complete jerk off and typically aggressive and unpredictable. women don't want guys who want them. they want guys who appear to be unobtainable. a girl feels she has 'won' something by being with this guy. why, i have no idea. so the lesson is if you can't beat em, join em, right? what else is there to learn.