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Originally Posted by TheSquealer
Fair enough... but that's what politics is. Groups of people trying to further their agendas, whether you agree with them or not. I don't personally think its appropriate to bring religion or religious values into politics but that's the system we have and everyone has the right to be represented and heard. I don't personally think there is any evidence or proof that more conservatives are bought and paid for than liberals, its just that is the reputation they have. When you look at campaign contributions and voting records, there is no difference between either party. In fact, all major donors, donate to both sides and buy off both sides. The primary difference is that one side doesn't get blamed for that behavior and the other does.
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Good point. Obama will raise somewhere close to 1 billion dollars for his campaign. Like you say the major players donate to both sides so no matter who wins, they win. The democrats don't get called on it as often as the republicans, that is very true.
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Agree 100%. 24hr news cycles, a relatively new sense of self entitlement and endemic ADD isn't going to build a better nation... its simply leading to swings that go further and further to each extreme (economically, politically etc) in my opinion.
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What amazes me is how both sides can often repackage the same shit over and over and keep selling it to their base. You would think after years and years of hearing the same promises and none of them ever coming true that people would finally stop buying it. But then along comes a candidate who somehow convinces the base that they are the real deal and they will actually be the one to make these changes and it works.
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Yeah, from what I've seen it's a race without a clear winner and its probably only going to be won at the last minute and will depend a great deal on the state of the economy, the dollar, gas prices, unemployment numbers etc, all which can change a great deal before the election.
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The way I see it is that if the economy continues to improve and the unemployment rate is somewhere in the 7's and there hasn't been any major crazy event, Obama will be hard to beat. If I were him I would get up there and tell people that the republicans drove the country into the ground and left him with the worst recession since the depression. He then made the tough choices to get things back on track and while they weren't always popular they worked and he has created (insert number slightly exaggerated) new jobs since taking off. I would then remind everyone I got us out of Iraq, passed the healthcare bill and killed Bin Laden.
While the truth in all of this will be exaggerated it will leave the republicans basically with the only option of saying that they could do better. Romney will not be able to fight against the healthcare law since it was based on the law he put in place in Mass. He will also have the problem of convincing the hard right that he is one of them. If Newt or Santorum pull off the miracle and win the nomination at least they can lean to the far right and oppose the healthcare bill, but still they will need a clear cut strategy to convince people that they can get the economy working better than Obama has. Either way it will be a tough haul for any republican. I think the election might be closer than some people think, but right now I think it is Obama's to lose. All that said, it is still 8 months away which is a lifetime in politics.