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Old 03-13-2012, 01:57 PM  
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips View Post
So you'd use force against your child for not obeying YOUR rule? Umm that's the same thing. And what if your child doesn't agree to his or her punishment?

Stop splitting hairs here
If there's any hair splitting, it's mine from me pulling it out of my head.

First, you need to separate violence/brutatlity/force (in the manner you're using it)/hitting/etc. from discipline. Discipline can be obtained without any of those.

Rules/laws are not only in effect to teach right from wrong, but they also help maintain order. There's a law that says which side of the road you should drive on. If not, everyone would drive every which way and there would be accidents. So laws were put into place to guide people. Break that law (and put people's lives at risk) and there are punishments. This has absolutely nothing to do with being raised peacefully or not. So fuck that argument of yours.


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Me: "Raise your children peacefully and they will BE peaceful. Do NOT hit them, do NOT punish them, do NOT threaten them."

Some people: "OH MY GOD you're fucking stupid!"

"Violence begets violence." I don't disagree with that. But proper discipline is not violent. Also, being raised peacefully doesn't always mean they will turn out peaceful. I don't recall any stories of God beating the shit out of Adam, or Adam beating his kids. By your theory, all of their descendents should have continued the "raise peaceful, they will be peaceful" concept, which would have resulted in one big happy fucking world. That turned out nicely...
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