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Old 03-14-2012, 03:24 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by crucifissio View Post
gideon...

you are deliberately giving a false argument that you know is stupid...copyright is easy to define and easy not to break...you cant copyright the letter "A" LOL even though you will go and pretend like you can...you can not copy right a general idea like anal sex LOL...read carefully: NOTHING is legally stopping me from being creative and producing content without using other peoples WORK ...your argument that copyright stops people from being creative is completely wrong....I am not prepared to debate this with you unless you give me a real life example...video juke box is not one....


except that not what you said

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give me one example where you, gideon, are not free to create what you wish but you can't really give me one except: I want to "format shift" other peoples work and call it "Art" or "my work" because I am a non creative lazy bastard....
the code in question does not format shift anything, IT provides the functionality to break the DRM.

IT WHAT IS BEING BLOCKED even though not one single line of code contained anyone else copyrighted content.


if they allowed them to sell it but AMERICAN END USERS who used it that way (assuming the copyright office doesn't re-instate the exemption for fair uses would be guilty your arguement would be correct

But that not what they did

They blocked the distribution of content based on copyright law.

Which is exactly the example you wanted me to give.

That the equivalent of blocking the sale of VCR because some people can use them to copy movies by daisy chaining them together INSTEAD OF going after the fuckers who DO commit the crime.




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video juke box broke the law and they knew it...you are NOT NOT NOT allowed by law to break DRM quote from your article: the "digital locks" provision is an anti-circumvention rule that makes it against the law merely to break a "digital lock" (i.e., to route around any form of DRM, no matter how weak) even if (and this is the important part) you are breaking the digital lock for perfectly legal reasons. if video juke box thinks they are above the law then BOOOOO fucking HOOOOOOOOOO fuck them...
1. not if you canadian (so there are not breaking the law when i buy it because it not even illegal for me to USE it)
2. not if the exemption by the copyright office is re-instated.
3. Writing code that allows an end user IS NOT BREAKING THE LOCK. IT providing code that can be USED TO BREAK THE LOCK (if a person put the dvd, clicks the button to run that code).


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as for IBM its YOUR link that says they only made 700 million on OS...YOU said microsoft made 20billion I said 218 but was thinking we were talking about value of a company...20billion is your figure not mine...
so your admitting your a scum bag who compared the total market value of a company against the sales of a company to fabricate your argument good.


again that number was in comparison to 100 billion IBM made in sales.

if you want to go back to that 22 billion is greater then 20 billion total that Microsoft sells.


why don't you get the real number then and stop pulling numbers out of your ass.

Do an apples to apples comparison

if you want to only count the cost of selling the OS then deduct all the other shit Microsoft sells. If you want to exclude the support contracts, which IBM sells decoupled because they FUCKING HAVE TOO, then decouple the support cost that Microsoft declares as unearned income.


hell just taking the phone support out of the licience drops the retail price from $319.99 to

$94.98 (molp). And that still includes the 7 years of support updates.

you won't even break 500 million if you do that.






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as for kickstarter as a business model this says it all: (quote gideon)

"hell even a self rolled crowd funding script will work if you know how to setup a proper campaign."


just proves my point...1% of people can use this LOL...not only is it limited to the USA it is basically worthless if you are not a traffic guru and many many many many many people are not...of those few people who are traffic gurus not all can use kickstarter LOL they not only need traffic skills they need marketing and idea skills...sounds like everybody can use it! LOL the lottery is a more realistic business model
10% is way more than 1% (as i have already shown you)

3 days intense training is all it takes to become the "traffic guru" to do this

seriously if takes you more than 3 days to learn this shit, then your a fucking moron.

How fucking entitled do you have to be to expect everyone to hand you success on a silver platter.
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