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Old 03-21-2012, 12:07 AM  
Barefootsies
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CAN-SPAM is weak as hell.

It does say you can't falsify your identity.
Correct. It doesn't. However, you must use a company name or I.D. for all mail. If you use a drop box in the U.S. then you must show I.D. to get it (Federal Law). So in theory, the name on the box should be the one on your email. Or at least the company name. The company or DBA must be registered legally, which again, requires you show I.D. to get in the first place.

Can people get around all of this? Sure. But it sounds like anyone bringing up such points is simply trying to skirt the laws. That is when you start getting into trouble. If you are legal and compliant, you should be fairly transparent.

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Don't read it and start thinking what's in CAN-SPAM are the rules.
It's not "the rules" sport. It's the LAW. Big difference.

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You ISP, payment processor, etc. will shut you down way before CAN-SPAM.
If you're list is dirty, you generate a ton of complaints and can't show double opt-in, etc. that is correct. You will be. If you're list is clean, and legal, you can always go to an ESP and have them mail it out for you. They will have clean IP's and can handle it for you. But even there, the complaint threshold will be low. If your list is legal, compliant, and clean with full disclosure going in. You should have few issues on the whole.

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Not to mention karma.
"Karma" doesn't exist. Neither does Santa, the Easter Bunny, Boogie Man or the rest of the invisible spirits people make up to sleep at night or lead them through life.

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