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Millions, try thousands and largely disaffected thousands who included CP traders, neo nazis and socialist rabble rousers. Not really a representative portion of the population no matter how you try to spin it. It certainly was no where near millions, wasn't even in the hundreds of thousands, it was thousands. More people protested against the release of Passion of the Christ in cinemas.
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So now your claiming that international trade bill that had more than 30 million dollars in lobbying money behind it was stopped by a few thousand protestors.
two cities (which counted the number of protesters) had over 15,000 and 5,000 respectively.
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January, at least 15,000 demonstrated in Kraków, 5,000 in Wrocław, with considerable protests in cities across the country
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COUGH BULLSHIT. The Parliamentary record documents the first, second or third readings of a bill and also includes any bills which go to committee as ACTA did. Anyone who wanted to read it could have.
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ACTA was an international trade agreement negotiated external to the government offices and then voted into acceptance. There was no committee draft of the law because by definition it was negotiated and drafted external to any one country.
So your talking totally out of your ass there.
WE ? Gideon, the most you have ever done for your cause is come to troll GFY, even then you fail. All you do is make stuff up and post it as fact, it's really rather pathetic to see you pushing this dead horse around.
Hopefully when you grow up you'll get a life rather than this pointless campaign of self justification on GFY.
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sure you can the bill is given to the representatives before the hearing are heard and recorded so they have time to review, get legal advice, etc before voting on it. Are you really so stupid as to believe that laws are sprung on the elected officals within the parliamentary debate. That they are given no time to prepare, and they vote blind.
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You know what ? In most countries that's exactly what happens, bills are presented to the Parliament by the sponsoring Minister and then read, voted on etc by the parliamentary members. It all happens during the parliamentary session (ie: sitting period). Usually the bills are made available in what's called the first reading. Not where someone actually reads out the bill but where the bill is placed onto the public record for consideration by parliamentarians.
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name one law that this happened
Just one where bill was presented by sponsoring minister, read and voted on all in the same day. Of the 1000s of times that it supposedly happened just name one.
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I love you little fantasy land, millions ? read above it was not millions, it wasn't even hundreds of thousands, it was thousands.
Are you autistic by any chance ? It would explain a lot about your single minded little campaign that nobody really cares about or supports.
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so in your world all that needed to stop a bill that has over 30 million dollars of lobbying money behind it is a few thousand people going to the street.
I wish that it was that simple, none of the bullshit laws would pass if that were true.